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"Todd" > wrote in message
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> On 10/22/2013 04:42 PM, Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
>> Na rijp beraad schreef Julie Bove :
>>> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$ >
>>> wrote in message ...
>>>> Todd heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
>>>>> On 10/21/2013 05:05 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/20/2013 1:11 PM, I Don't Know wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:42:33 -0400, Susan >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> x-no-arhive: yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2013 11:49 PM, I Don't Know wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Your advice could kill some people you moron.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He advised not to take one's prescribed meds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's good advice, because most meds are made by BIG Pharma and as
>>>>>> practically *everyone* who is not in Susan's killfile knows, BIG
>>>>>> Pharma
>>>>>> is PURE EVIL.
>>>>>> Just like the ADA and most doctors are PURE EVIL.
>>>>>> You *really* ARE new here, aren't you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I never advised anyone not to take their meds.
>>>>> And I shared that I any finally back off them and am
>>>>> very happy about it. I did say you should not to use drugs
>>>>> so you can cheat on your carb count.
>>>>
>>>> What idiot would do that?
>>>> M.
>>>
>>> They wouldn't because meds don't work that way. Not most of them
>>> anyway. Prandin and Starlix do let some people eat more carbs but
>>> Starlix didn't work for me. Something like Metformin isn't a "cheat"
>>> type med or even a fast acting one.

>>
>> As I read this, it's about covering up for more food-intake with extra
>> insulin.
>> M.

>
> Hi Maya,
>
> Do you ever post recipes over on alt.food.diabetic?
> It is a good place to learn how to cook diabetic.


Good golly! This is getting ridiculous. There is no way to cook diabetic.
We eat regular food just like everyone else does.
>
> He gave me instructions about how to take extra insulin
> so you could eat a piece of cake and what whatever else
> he wanted.


Maybe he did. That doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. And again, we
don't know if he is type 1 or 2 or whatever. A type 1 could perhaps easily
do this. I am not type 1. I don't want to speak for them. There is a term
for this. I don't remember what it is called. But something like shooting
insulin for a normal way of eating. I believe that sort of regimen is
designed for growing children. But again, I am not type 1 and no expert on
this.
>
> Too much insulin messed you up pretty good too, even if
> you are offsetting with vast quantities of carbs, which
> also mess you up in other way besides T2.


Too much insulin messed Maya up? You are making this sound worse and worse.
And you are coming off more and more like the idiot here.
>
> The guy has almost killed himself once. I do not
> see a happy ending to this. And he is a really
> decent man that other love, need, and rely on.


Maybe he did. Maybe he wants to die. Who knows? Nobody knows here.
Probably you don't even know.
>
> An article on insulin:
>
>
https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2013...olution_01.htm
> Too much insulin, the fat storage hormone, also drives
> more inflammation and oxidative stress, and produces a
> myriad of downstream effects including high blood pressure,
> high cholesterol, low HDL, high triglycerides, poor sex
> drive, infertility, thickening of the blood, and increased
> risk of cancer, Alzheimers, and depression.
>
> Probably why T1 shouldn't over do the insulin too.


Who says they are overdoing insulin? Do you use insulin? Have you ever?
If not, then you probably shouldn't be preaching about it.

You strike me as a very scary person. Someone here said that you might kill
someone by the advice you are giving. I very much believe that to be true.
Nobody here is a Dr. Nobody here should be giving medical advice.