On 9/5/2013 5:21 PM, Dhu on Gate wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:13:30 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On 9/5/2013 3:00 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 00:59:26 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is no importance at all to the "getting". If some livestock
>>>> animals "get to experience life", that isn't good for them; and if no
>>>> livestock animals "get to experience life", that isn't bad for any
>>>> animals. If livestock animals exist, then experiencing a good life is
>>>> better for them than experiencing a bad life. It is not "better" for
>>>> the animals to experience a good life than never to live at all.
>>>
>>> The question is whether it is good for us humans to have domestic animals, and
>>
>> No, that isn't the question.
>
> Still think there's no harm in pullin' wings offa flies, eh?

That isn't the topic, either.