On 06/14/2013 04:29 PM, Billy wrote:
> In article >, Todd >
> wrote:
>
>> On 06/08/2013 07:39 PM, Todd wrote:
>>> On 06/08/2013 06:38 PM, W. Baker wrote:
>>>> Todd > wrote:
>>>> : >
>>>> : > I'm fond of fish & chips, which used to be Northwest Atlantic cod.
>>>> : >
>>>> : > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_cod#Northwest_Atlantic_cod>
>>>> : > In the winter of 2011-2012, the cod fishery succeeded in
>>>> convincing NOAA
>>>> : > to postpone for one year the planned 82% reduction in catch limits.
>>>> : > Instead the limit will be reduced by 22%. The fishery brought in
>>>> $15.8
>>>> : > million in 2010, coming second behind Georges Bank haddock among the
>>>> : > region?s 20 regulated bottom-dwelling groundfish. Data released in
>>>> 2011
>>>> : > indicated that even closing the fishery would not allow
>>>> populations to
>>>> : > rebound by 2014 to levels required under federal law. Restrictions on
>>>> : > cod effectively limit fishing on other groundfish species with
>>>> which the
>>>> : > cod swim, such as flounder and haddock.
>>>> : >
>>>>
>>>> : Hi Billy,
>>>>
>>>> : Something went really, really wrong with that Cod fishery. The
>>>> : game managers must have really screwed up something big time.
>>>> : I hope they get it back to sustainable levels before too long
>>>> : with the absolute minimum of job loss. We may all have
>>>> : to settle on flounder or haddock for a while. As has been
>>>> : said before on these pages, man does not live by fish
>>>> : alone. :-)
>>>>
>>>> : I would hate to have happen what happened in Japan to
>>>> : their herring population. Use to be like Alaska's.
>>>> : Now it is permanently gone (over harvesting).
>>>>
>>>> : -T
>>>>
>>>> Cod used to be enormously abundant but ws grossly overfished and whten
>>>> they brought in the big Russia and other european ships it became even
>>>> more over fished. In addition, the harp seals who have the cut
>>>> whitefurred babies that used tobe hunted heavily off Greenland, eat cod.
>>>> Now their populatin has exploded because the hunting was
>>>> forbidden(remember all thebusiness about slubbing the baby seals on the
>>>> Greenland ice? so even with controlled fishing by humans the population
>>>> ccannot recover very fast. cod is a large fish when adult adn takes
>>>> aquite a while to be able to reproduce so that slows everyting down.
>>>> when
>>>> I was a child cod was a cheap fish eaten by the poor. Now it is scarce,
>>>> limited in catch and quite expensive. Europe used to survive on salt cod
>>>> for humdreds of years. Now it is harder adn more expensive to get.
>>>>
>>>> It is NOT a short fish and game department problem that can be fixed in a
>>>> season or two. It will take decades if ther is not toomuch cheatingand
>>>> cod smuggling. If they do not control the catch it may well never
>>>> recoverc. Right now the same thing is happening with Chilean Sea BAss
>>>> which is also a very large and slow developing fish that needs years to
>>>> reach breeding maturity. With the overfishing most of the adults are
>>>> gone
>>>> adn there is exptreme danger of the entire population being wiped out
>>>> because they don't wnat to leave the youngsters in the sea to mature and
>>>> breed.
>>>>
>>>> One should thnk of these things before buyin these fish.
>>>>
>>>> Wendy
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Wendy,
>>>
>>> Raley's Full Circle flash frozen fish have a Sustainable Fisheries
>>> tag on them. I have searched the web but can't find anything about
>>> this tag. We should look for this tag before purchasing fish.
>>> (Hope it is real and not a crock of poo to get us to pay more.)
>>>
>>> -T
>>
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> Found the certification sticker: the Marine Stewardship Council
>> http://www.msc.org/
>>
>> Unable to tell if they help or hurt. But, they seem legit.
>> Their stickers are on the Raley's Full Circle flash frozen
>> fish.
>>
>> -T
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Stewardship_Council>
>
Hi Billy,
Thank you for writing me on the pruning issue over on the
gardening group! I wondered why there was such a nice batch
of folks over the they are a lot of the same folks over here!
Explains it.
-T