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On 2/6/2013 11:31 AM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon
for dog fighting, lied:

> On 2/4/2013 6:28 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>> On 2/4/2013 4:13 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon
>> for dog fighting, lied:
>>> On 1/30/2013 1:25 PM, George Plimpton wrote:> On 1/30/2013 12:13 PM,
>>> dh@. wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/28/2013 3:56 PM,****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon
>>>>>> for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/22/2013 7:15 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/22/2013 3:37 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted
>>>>>>>> felon
>>>>>>>> for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/21/2013 7:25 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/21/2013 3:05 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted
>>>>>>>>>> felon
>>>>>>>>>> for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:40:27 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:20:45 -0500, ****wit David Harrison -
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* -
>>>>>>>>>>>> convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:38:50 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:34:23 -0500, ****wit David Harrison -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:44:48 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:38:03 -0500, ****wit David Harrison -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:47:39 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:29:54 -0500, ****wit David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:15:49 -0800, George Plimpton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:16:39 -0500, ****wit David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:26 -0800, George Plimpton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:20 -0500, ****wit David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, George Plimpton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:46 -0500, ****wit David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:10 -0800, George Plimpton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and I forgot James Hepler.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [bullshit]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you your "animals getting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life" nonsense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He asked if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you point blank that your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "getting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience life"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit was pure bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler did, of course, tell you your "animals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience life" story is bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm saying to David Harrison that his "at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument only applies to HIM and humans, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> derive the benefit of getting to live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you point-blank your "at least they get to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gibberish is bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They do live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No moral meaning to that, *Goo*, and James Hepler told you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so...as did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Martin Martens, John Mercer, Felix, Swamp, diderot, Illinois
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowhunter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Sue Bishop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to YOU
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It has no meaning, period - zero.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> people who honestly believe decent AW
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The animals "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning to
>>>>>>>>>> anyone,
>>>>>>>>>> *Goo*. That's just a fact - an indisputable fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course it does
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, it has no moral meaning *at all*, *Goo*. Everyone knows it -
>>>>>>>> including you. You're just being pig-shit stubborn and stupid
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It certainly has as much or more than their deaths
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it does not. It has *NO* meaning at all
>>>>>
>>>>> It sure does and
>>>>
>>>> No. It has no meaning at all, *Goo*.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Goo* - zero. Their
>>>>>> deaths *do* have some meaning, because ending a life is morally
>>>>>> troubling.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's hilarious in the
>>>>
>>>> No, *Goo*.
>>>>
>>>> The fact they "get to experience life" has no meaning, *Goo* - you have
>>>> admitted it, *Goo* - and *THEREFORE*, *Goo*, if they never live at all,
>>>> that has no meaning, either. None.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Changing the course of action so that some animal lives
>>>>>> don't happen is meaningless< *to the animals*. It *cannot* have any
>>>>>> meaning to the animals that are not going to exist, ****wit.
>>>>>
>>>>> but how it has meaning when they DO LIVE
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't. "Getting to experience life" has no meaning "to the
>>>> animals", *Goo*. There is nothing to consider about what's important
>>>> "to the animals", *Goo*
>>>>
>>>> In all this time, *Goo* - over 14 years - you have not been able to say
>>>> what is important "to the animals" about "getting to experience life",
>>>> because *nothing* is important about it, and *THEREFORE*, there is
>>>> nothing to consider. You were done over 14 years ago, *Goo* - why have
>>>> you wasted all this time fighting a lost cause?
>>>
>>> In contrast to that

>>
>> No, *Goo*. There is no "contrast" - LOL!!!! - at all. You have never
>> been able to say what is important "to the animals" about "getting to
>> experience life", because *nothing* is important about it. *BECAUSE*
>> there is no importance to it, *Goo*, there's nothing to consider.
>>
>> You were done before you ever tried to learn to post to Usenet, *Goo*.

>
> It obviously necessarily does


No, *Goo* - there is nothing to consider, *Goo*, and you haven't even
come *close* to trying to say what might be worth consideration. The
whole thing has been a *FAILURE*, Goo - you have failed to make any kind
of case against "vegans".