On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:25:12 -0800, Goo wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:13:46 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:21:15 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:56:01 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 19:15:24 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:37:23 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:25:25 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:05:48 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:40:27 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:20:45 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:38:50 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:34:23 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:44:48 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:38:03 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:47:39 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:29:54 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:15:49 -0800, Goo agreed:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:16:39 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:26 -0800, Goo lied:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:20 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, Goo lied extremely blatantly:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:46 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:10 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, and I forgot James Hepler.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Why do some people on one hand call for the extinction of a species
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while on the other hand lamenting the extinction of another? Are they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not all equal?" - James Hepler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you your "animals getting to experience life" nonsense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He asked if the lives of wildlife and domestic animals should not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>considered as equal Goob. That's what I suggest and what eliminationists and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ONLY eliminationists have reason to oppose, Goo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you point blank that your "getting to experience life"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bullshit was pure bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!! A guy who asked "are they not all equal" supposedly is opposed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>taking them into consideration. HILARIOUS! You are such a stupid Goober, Goo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler did, of course, tell you your "animals getting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>experience life" story is bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm saying to David Harrison that his "at least they get to live"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument only applies to HIM and humans, that animals don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> derive the benefit of getting to live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you think he disagrees with himself then Goo? Also Goober, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>animals or beings of any kind do you want us to think don't derive the benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of getting to live, and why? Do you think any creatures DO derive the benefit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting to live Goob, and if so what do you think is the distinction between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them and livestock animals who you claim don't, do you have any idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you point-blank your "at least they get to live"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>gibberish is bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They do live Goo. Billions of them. Some of them have lives of positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>value and some of negative value, but you people can't appreciate or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>acknowledge the difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>No moral meaning to that
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not to YOU Goo, but it has much meaning to people who honestly favor decent
>>>>>>>>>>AW over elimination.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It has no meaning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Goo people who honestly believe decent AW is ethically equivalent or
>>>>>>>>superior to elimination have no reason to oppose taking those same lives and
>>>>>>>>potential lives into consideration, you stupid STUPID Goober.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The animals "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it does Goo, and the fact that you have no clue how much it has is
>>>>>>something else that exposes you.
>>>>>
>>>>>No, it has no moral meaning *at all*, *Goo*. Everyone knows it -
>>>>>including you.
>>>>
>>>> It certainly has as much or more than their deaths Goob. ONLY
>>>>eliminationists have reason to oppose considering the animals' lives, Goo.
>>>
>>>No, it does not. It has *NO* meaning at all
>>
>> It sure does Goob and ONLY eliminationists are in a position to be unable to
>>appreciate the fact. And then ONLY the very stupid eliminationists are unable to
>>recognise the meaning at all. The more intelligent ones would recognise it even
>>if they were not able to appreciate it, as most likely no eliminationists are or
>>they would be AW advocates instead of eliminationists, Goo.
>>
>>>, *Goo* - zero. Their
>>>deaths *do* have some meaning, because ending a life is morally
>>>troubling.
>>
>> LOL!!! It's hilarious in the most pathetic of ways that you find ending
>>something you consider to be meaningless also morally troubling, Goo. LOL...what
>>a true Goober you are Goob.
>>
>>>Changing the course of action so that some animal lives
>>>don't happen is meaningless
>>
>> That part we know you can comprehend Goo, but how it has meaning when they
>>DO LIVE is one of the aspects you people are unable to appreciate and some of
>>you can't even comprehend.
>
>It doesn't. "Getting to experience life" has no meaning "to the
>animals"

In contrast to that seemingly idiotic claim, it has the meaning of
everything they ever experience both good and bad afawk, Goo.