"Todd" > wrote in message
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> On 02/02/2013 12:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Todd" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> The T2 I spoke of was wearing short pants, making with mechanical
>>> feet very obvious, while he made himself a hamburger on a huge
>>> white bread bun (solid sugar) and smeared catchup (liquid sugar)
>>> all over it. I was freaking out pointing at the stuff. He didn't
>>> care. We said he went on insulin as he couldn't take the
>>> restrictions. Broke my heart. He is a really nice guy too.
>>
>> Buns are not solid sugar! And ketchup isn't liquid sugar although it
>> usually contains some or HFCS but you can get the SF stuff.
>
> One slice of wheat bread is 12 grams of carbs. A hamburger bun
> is two thick pieces. So a least 24 grams if not more.
>
> http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...roducts/4868/2
Carbs and sugar are not the same thing.
>
> Ketchup is 4 grams of carb per tablespoon. You can guess how many
> tablespoons he squirted on. So a least 12 grams.
>
> http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...roducts/3005/2
So? Every *body* is different. So he ate what... 36g of carbs? That's
not a lot and some would even consider that to be low carb. If I ate that
as a meal you could guarantee that I'd have a hypo about 2 hours later.
That's not enough carbs for me! I eat 45g for dinner. About 30g for
breakfast. I don't do lunch.
>
> If he only ate one burger and nothing else, he would be at least
> up to 36 grams! That is really keeping it down to 15! Yikes.
So what? Again that's not a lot of carbs.
>
> And, he had had a heart attack and lost both of his feet.
> Very, very sad. He is a really nice guy too.
>
>
>>>
>>> I have "heard" that carbs can be addictive. They create some kind
>>> of weird chemistry in the brain. He must have it really bad.
>>
>> For some people they are. Certainly not all. And you shouldn't make
>> assumptions about others. Here in the US, eating a burger on a bun is
>> not
>> at all unusual.
>
> It is INSANE for a T2. The rest, I would agree. I was speaking
> of a T2.
No it is not and your comments are starting to tick me off. Low carb most
certainly does not work for every *body*. If I ate like you did, my BG
would be up over 300 all the time. I know because I did try that. Do I eat
burgers with buns? Rarely. Why? I don't really like buns. I'd rather eat
fries or something else. I don't really even like burgers but it is one
safe meal I can get in a restaurant. I have multiple food intolerances.
>
> By the way, Wendy's and In and Out will do Protein Style burger
> for around 14 grams of carb. If it is not enough food they both
> will add extra cheese. (They sub lettuce for the bun and no ketchup
> or secret sauce.)
>
So? Not everyone likes a burger in lettuce. I know I don't! Makes the
lettuce soggy. Any restaurant, fast food or otherwise will serve you a
hamburger patty with no bun.
>>>
>>> To me "carbs" are poison, both intellectually and emotionally.
>>> So, I guess not to judge unless you walk in some else's
>>> shoes.
>>
>> Very true.
>
> He may rather be dead than be without his carbs. It breaks
> my heart to see him walking around on his mechanical legs.
> Especially knowing it was self inflicted and was under
> his control not to have this happen to him.
You are REALLY jumping to assumptions here. Nobody here knows how he lost
his limbs or if the heart attack was related to diabetes. Your saying that
this was self inflicted is a very, very rude thing to say. How do you think
this man would feel if he knew that you were saying things like this about
him? Were you there when he lost his limbs? Do you know the actual cause?