On 02/01/2013 03:59 PM, W. Baker wrote:
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> : "W. Baker" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > Julie Bove > wrote:
> : >
> : > : "Todd" > wrote in message
> : > : ...
> : > : > On 01/31/2013 02:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> : > : >>> My wife's side of the family has a T2 that is 92 years old.
> : > : >>> >So, as long as we watch ourselves, we will be fine. I think
> : > : >>> >of it as a lifestyle, not as a disease. (Though I know of a guy
> : > : >>> >who refused the restrictions and lost both legs then
> : > : >>> >his life at age 52 or so. Don't remember the exact number.
> : > : >>> >He must have really likes sweets and pizza.)
> : > : >>> >
> : > : >>> >-T
> : > : >
> : > : >> I know plenty of diabetics who eat pizza and sweets. Not saying that
> : > : >> it's
> : > : >> right. Or wrong or whatever. Still doesn't mean that we'll lose a
> : > limb.
> : > : >
> : > : > I talked to a T2 yesterday. He told me he could not put up
> : > : > with the restrictions, so he went on insulin. Seems to
> : > : > be working well for him, if you ignore his two artificial
> : > : > legs and his heart attack. Very dis-hearting. I suspect the
> : > : > wild BG swings and the insulin itself (too much is toxic) may
> : > : > be to account. Yikes! Thank you not, I will keep my feet.
> : > : > I am rather fond of them.
> : >
> : > : What do you mean by restrictions? And what does insulin have to do with
> : > : anything? Some people need it. Doesn't mean that they've failed at
> : > : anything.
> : >
> : > Some popoe don't tyr to control their diabetes or don't want to try so
> : > they think that by taking insulin they cna eat anything they want. As you
> : > know, this is not true. Many need insulin, but others prefer to use it
> : > than to try to control teir disese any other way. this is not your case
> : > and no one is accusing you.
>
> : Yes, it certainly isn't true. It also isn't true that just because a person
> : doesn't eat a low carb diet that they will lose limbs.
>
>
> Nothing is certain in any disease. Lots of very fat people never get tye
> 2 diabetes, but the liklihood is higher if you are fat. Not all
> uncontrolled diabetics lose limbs, but in general well controlled ones
> don't and there is a higer liklihood of losing one if uncotrolled.
>
> living uncotrolled may or may not give you terrible problems, but tempting
> fate by not trying to controll is foolishness and increases the liklihood
> that you will get complications like vision problems, blindness, loss of
> limbs cardio cascular diseases, etc. Nothing is guarannteed and until you
> get a side effect you don't have it. Gastroparesis , actually a form of
> neuropathy, is considered a complication of diabetes too that, as Julie
> can testify, is not something you want to food with.
>
> Wendy
>

The T2 I spoke of was wearing short pants, making with mechanical
feet very obvious, while he made himself a hamburger on a huge
white bread bun (solid sugar) and smeared catchup (liquid sugar)
all over it. I was freaking out pointing at the stuff. He didn't
care. We said he went on insulin as he couldn't take the
restrictions. Broke my heart. He is a really nice guy too.

I have "heard" that carbs can be addictive. They create some kind
of weird chemistry in the brain. He must have it really bad.

To me "carbs" are poison, both intellectually and emotionally.
So, I guess not to judge unless you walk in some else's
shoes.

-T