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On 1/30/2013 12:13 PM, dh@. wrote:
> On 1/28/2013 4:21 PM, George Plimpton wrote:> On 1/28/2013 3:56 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon
>> for dog fighting, lied:
>>
>>> On 1/22/2013 7:15 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/22/2013 3:37 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon
>>>> for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/21/2013 7:25 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/21/2013 3:05 PM, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon
>>>>>> for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:40:27 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:20:45 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo* -
>>>>>>>> convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:38:50 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:34:23 -0500, ****wit David Harrison - *Goo*
>>>>>>>>>> - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:44:48 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:38:03 -0500, ****wit David Harrison -
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:47:39 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:29:54 -0500, ****wit David Harrison -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:15:49 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:16:39 -0500, ****wit David Harrison -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:26 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:20 -0500, ****wit David Harrison
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, George Plimpton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:46 -0500, ****wit David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:10 -0800, George Plimpton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and I forgot James Hepler.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [bullshit]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you your "animals getting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life" nonsense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He asked if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you point blank that your "getting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience life"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit was pure bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler did, of course, tell you your "animals getting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience life" story is bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm saying to David Harrison that his "at least they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument only applies to HIM and humans, that animals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> derive the benefit of getting to live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you point-blank your "at least they get to
>>>>>>>>>>>> live"
>>>>>>>>>>>> gibberish is bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They do live
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No moral meaning to that, *Goo*, and James Hepler told you
>>>>>>>>>> so...as did
>>>>>>>>>> Martin Martens, John Mercer, Felix, Swamp, diderot, Illinois
>>>>>>>>>> Bowhunter,
>>>>>>>>>> and Sue Bishop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not to YOU
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has no meaning, period - zero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> people who honestly believe decent AW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The animals "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning to
>>>>>> anyone,
>>>>>> *Goo*. That's just a fact - an indisputable fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it does
>>>>
>>>> No, it has no moral meaning *at all*, *Goo*. Everyone knows it -
>>>> including you. You're just being pig-shit stubborn and stupid again.
>>>
>>> It certainly has as much or more than their deaths

>>
>> No, it does not. It has *NO* meaning at all

>
> It sure does and


No. It has no meaning at all, *Goo*.


>
>> *Goo* - zero. Their
>> deaths *do* have some meaning, because ending a life is morally
>> troubling.

>
> It's hilarious in the


No, *Goo*.

The fact they "get to experience life" has no meaning, *Goo* - you have
admitted it, *Goo* - and *THEREFORE*, *Goo*, if they never live at all,
that has no meaning, either. None.


>
>> Changing the course of action so that some animal lives
>> don't happen is meaningless< *to the animals*. It *cannot* have any
>> meaning to the animals that are not going to exist, ****wit.

>
> but how it has meaning when they DO LIVE


It doesn't. "Getting to experience life" has no meaning "to the
animals", *Goo*. There is nothing to consider about what's important
"to the animals", *Goo*

In all this time, *Goo* - over 14 years - you have not been able to say
what is important "to the animals" about "getting to experience life",
because *nothing* is important about it, and *THEREFORE*, there is
nothing to consider. You were done over 14 years ago, *Goo* - why have
you wasted all this time fighting a lost cause?