On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 19:15:24 -0800, Goo wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:37:23 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:25:25 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:05:48 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:40:27 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:20:45 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:38:50 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:34:23 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:44:48 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:38:03 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:47:39 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:29:54 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:15:49 -0800, Goo agreed:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:16:39 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:26 -0800, Goo lied:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:20 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, Goo lied extremely blatantly:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:46 -0500, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:10 -0800, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, and I forgot James Hepler.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Why do some people on one hand call for the extinction of a species
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while on the other hand lamenting the extinction of another? Are they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not all equal?" - James Hepler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you your "animals getting to experience life" nonsense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He asked if the lives of wildlife and domestic animals should not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>considered as equal Goob. That's what I suggest and what eliminationists and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ONLY eliminationists have reason to oppose, Goo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you point blank that your "getting to experience life"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bullshit was pure bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!! A guy who asked "are they not all equal" supposedly is opposed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>taking them into consideration. HILARIOUS! You are such a stupid Goober, Goo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler did, of course, tell you your "animals getting to
>>>>>>>>>>>experience life" story is bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm saying to David Harrison that his "at least they get to live"
>>>>>>>>>>> argument only applies to HIM and humans, that animals don't
>>>>>>>>>>> derive the benefit of getting to live
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do you think he disagrees with himself then Goo? Also Goober, which
>>>>>>>>>>animals or beings of any kind do you want us to think don't derive the benefit
>>>>>>>>>>of getting to live, and why? Do you think any creatures DO derive the benefit of
>>>>>>>>>>getting to live Goob, and if so what do you think is the distinction between
>>>>>>>>>>them and livestock animals who you claim don't, do you have any idea?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you point-blank your "at least they get to live"
>>>>>>>>>gibberish is bullshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They do live Goo. Billions of them. Some of them have lives of positive
>>>>>>>>value and some of negative value, but you people can't appreciate or even
>>>>>>>>acknowledge the difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No moral meaning to that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to YOU Goo, but it has much meaning to people who honestly favor decent
>>>>>>AW over elimination.
>>>>>
>>>>>It has no meaning
>>>>
>>>> Goo people who honestly believe decent AW is ethically equivalent or
>>>>superior to elimination have no reason to oppose taking those same lives and
>>>>potential lives into consideration, you stupid STUPID Goober.
>>>
>>>The animals "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning
>>
>> Of course it does Goo, and the fact that you have no clue how much it has is
>>something else that exposes you.
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>No, it has no moral meaning *at all*, *Goo*. Everyone knows it -
>including you.

It certainly has as much or more than their deaths Goob. ONLY
eliminationists have reason to oppose considering the animals' lives, Goo.