On Oct 10, 11:44*am, Rupert > wrote:
> On Oct 10, 5:40*pm, "Mr. N.A.Cho" > wrote:
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> > On Oct 10, 11:38*am, Rupert > wrote:
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> > > On Oct 10, 5:33*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" > wrote:
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> > > > "CheeseHusker dos" > wrote
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> > > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
> > > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A
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> > > > > > > > > It's shit. It's unpalatable shit.
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> > > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.
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> > > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".
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> > > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.
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> > > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.
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> > > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
> > > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
> > > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
> > > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
> > > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
> > > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
> > > > > > > significant health benefits.
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> > > > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.
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> > > > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
> > > > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
> > > > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
> > > > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
> > > > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.
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> > > > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
> > > > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
> > > > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
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> > > > <Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?
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> > > > And the bugs that live on them!!!
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> > > > --Tedward
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> > > Of course insects die in order to produce my food. Plenty of small
> > > mammals die as well for that matter, crushed up in the combine
> > > harvester. I never made any claim that no suffering and premature
> > > death had to take place in order to produce my food. I am somewhat
> > > motivated to make some effort to reduce the amount of suffering that
> > > has to take place in order to produce my food and I have decided to be
> > > vegan because I think that that's a sensible strategy for achieving
> > > that goal. Others may have different priorities and as I said I have
> > > no interest in trying to get them to change their mind.- Hide quoted text -
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> > Rupert, how do you explain our canine eye teeth? *Are they for ripping
> > apart carrots? *No, they are for ripping apart animal flesh. *We are
> > meat eaters. * *To force a child against the very human nature they
> > are born with is child abuse of a sort. * It's like the disgusting
> > news stories of parents tatooing thier children becuase the parent
> > happens to be into tattoos. * It's that same selfish and narrow-minded
> > idea of forcing adult choices on a child.
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> We have canine eye teeth because we have an evolutionary kinship with
> carnivorous species. We are capable of thriving on both omnivorous and
> vegetarian diets, like our primate ancestors. I've provided you with
> the position of the American Dietetic Association, which you can
> easily find on Google, and the opinions of two doctors with whom I
> have discussed the matter, both of whom have degrees in medicine and
> no kind of ideological animal-rights agenda. Also my experiences as a
> vegan and many vegan friends of mine. There might be some evidence
> that goes the other way, but you have yet to provide it. It is not
> child abuse to bring up a child as a vegan; it's perfectly safe for
> the child and the child can make its own decisions when it gets older.
> As I say, your opinions are ill-founded prejudices.- Hide quoted text -
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what about social ostracism at school that will undoubtely occur when
other children realize that your child is different?