Dietary ethics
On 8/2/2012 7:43 AM, Rupert wrote:
> On Aug 2, 4:39 pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
>> On 8/2/2012 6:59 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>>> On Aug 2, 3:39 pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
>>>>>>>> No. The things he says that are lies don't contradict his statements of
>>>>>>>> belief.
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>>>>>>> Well, I must have misunderstood you
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>>>>>> They don't contradict his statements of belief because the apparent
>>>>>> contradictions are lies. His statements of belief are "true" in the
>>>>>> sense that they accurately state his beliefs. When he says that the
>>>>>> "unborn animals" will experience some loss if their conception and birth
>>>>>> are prevented, he is expressing a belief that is in accord with all of
>>>>>> his other unsolicited statements of belief. When he says he couldn't
>>>>>> believe "they" would experience a loss because he considers them to be
>>>>>> "nothing", that is a lie, and so it cannot contradict his statement of
>>>>>> belief.
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>>>>> You appear to be confused about what "contradict" means.
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>>>> No.
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>>> I'm afraid
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>> Because you've not been taking your anti-psychotic meds.
You should get back on them, or else very unpleasant wobbliness will result.
>>>>>> Only if he truly believed that the unconceived farm animals are
>>>>>> "nothing" could it be contradictory, but he doesn't believe that, as I
>>>>>> have proved.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> ****wit *still* believes that the "getting to experience life" is
>>>>>>>>>>>> important - *morally* important - to the animals themselves, even before
>>>>>>>>>>>> they are conceived and born and exist as rational people think of
>>>>>>>>>>>> existence. The *only* way he can believe that is if he believes they
>>>>>>>>>>>> "pre-exist in some sense." He does believe that. He is an idiot.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you certainly seem to be convinced.
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>>>>>>>>>> I'm right.
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>>>>>>>>> So you would appear to believe.
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>>>>>>>> You know I'm right. You just like being an asshole.
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>>>>>>> You seem to react in a very hostile way when someone isn't persuaded
>>>>>>> by your argument.
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>>>>>> You just like being an asshole - a bloated-ego asshole.
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>>>>> You seem to be rather intolerant of differences of opinion.
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>>>> No.
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>>> That's very funny.
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>> No.
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> Well, I laughed.
Psychosis.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't hate you
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Yes, you do, Woopert. It's irrational, but that's
>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent for you.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think I hate you?
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>>>>>>>>>> Irrationality.
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>>>>>>>>> No,
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>>>>>>>> Yes.
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>>>>> What led you to the conclusion that I hate you
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>>>> What you write here, and your obsession with me.
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>>> Where do you see the evidence of hatred?
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>> In your posts.
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> Can you be more specific?
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