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On Aug 2, 3:39*pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
> >>>> No. *The things he says that are lies don't contradict his statements of
> >>>> belief.

>
> >>> Well, I must have misunderstood you

>
> >> They don't contradict his statements of belief because the apparent
> >> contradictions are lies. *His statements of belief are "true" in the
> >> sense that they accurately state his beliefs. *When he says that the
> >> "unborn animals" will experience some loss if their conception and birth
> >> are prevented, he is expressing a belief that is in accord with all of
> >> his other unsolicited statements of belief. *When he says he couldn't
> >> believe "they" would experience a loss because he considers them to be
> >> "nothing", that is a lie, and so it cannot contradict his statement of
> >> belief.

>
> > You appear to be confused about what "contradict" means.

>
> No.
>


I'm afraid you are actually.

> >> * Only if he truly believed that the unconceived farm animals are
> >> "nothing" could it be contradictory, but he doesn't believe that, as I
> >> have proved.

>


> >>>>>>>> ****wit *still* believes that the "getting to experience life" is
> >>>>>>>> important - *morally* important - to the animals themselves, even before
> >>>>>>>> they are conceived and born and exist as rational people think of
> >>>>>>>> existence. *The *only* way he can believe that is if he believes they
> >>>>>>>> "pre-exist in some sense." *He does believe that. *He is an idiot.

>
> >>>>>>> Well, you certainly seem to be convinced.

>
> >>>>>> I'm right.

>
> >>>>> So you would appear to believe.

>
> >>>> You know I'm right. *You just like being an asshole.

>
> >>> You seem to react in a very hostile way when someone isn't persuaded
> >>> by your argument.

>
> >> You just like being an asshole - a bloated-ego asshole.

>
> > You seem to be rather intolerant of differences of opinion.

>
> No.
>


That's very funny.

> >>>>>>>> I don't hate you

>
> >>>>>>>> Ha ha ha ha ha ha! *Yes, you do, Woopert. *It's irrational, but that's
> >>>>>>>> consistent for you.

>
> >>>>>>> Why do you think I hate you?

>
> >>>>>> Irrationality.

>
> >>>>> No,

>
> >>>> Yes.

>
> > What led you to the conclusion that I hate you

>
> What you write here, and your obsession with me.


Where do you see the evidence of hatred?