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Default ANIMAL RIGHTS BILL 1 - Tom Regan speaks.

On Apr 24, 7:52*am, George Plimpton > wrote:
> On 7/30/2007 7:07 AM, pearl wrote:
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> > ANIMAL RIGHTS BILL 1 - Tom Regan speaks.
> > Video (8.38 minutes)
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADhNch30Img

>
> Regan says, *"They [animals] are not only in the world, they are aware
> of it, and also what happens to them." *Bullshit. *Animals are *not*
> aware that they are in the world, they don't even know there's a world,
> and they have no concept whatever of any "fate" in store for them.
>


The claim is that animals are aware of the world. To quote Ludwig
Wittgenstein, "The world is everything that is the case." Animals are
aware of some aspects of reality. They are not aware of the existence
of the planet earth or the universe, and they are not able to think at
a sufficient level of abstraction to be able to think to themselves
"The world is everything that is the case", but they are aware of some
aspects of reality, and that is enough for the claim to be true.
Animals are aware of what happens to them, and at least some of them
have some concept of the future.

> Regan: *"And what happens to them matters to them." *Wrong.
>


Actually, it is very obviously true.

> "Like us, they bring a unified psychological presence to the world."
> Bullshit - pure mealymouthed psychobabble.
>


It's not bullshit.

> No rational philosophy can come from a basis of such unmitigated bullshit..