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Default "Speciesism" - nothing wrong with it

On 4/12/2012 3:08 PM, Rupert wrote:
> On Apr 12, 6:47 pm, George > wrote:
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>>> On Apr 12, 7:11 am, George > wrote:
>>>> On 4/11/2012 8:53 PM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>> On Apr 12, 12:23 am, > wrote:
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>>>>>>> Most ethicists would agree that equal consideration of interests is
>>>>>>> the default starting position.

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>>>>>> For whom? My default starting position for consideration is my own
>>>>>> interests, followed by my immediate family including my pets, my community,
>>>>>> my country, mankind, higher level animals, rare plant species, lower level
>>>>>> animals, the planet, and the economy is implied in there somewhere.

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>>>>>> The default starting position for every organism in existence is its own
>>>>>> interests, that is the way the world works.

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>>>>> That is something that requires defence from the moral point of view.

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>>>> Why?

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>>> Because the interests of other organisms are equally important from
>>> the moral point of view,

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>> That's the assertion you must prove, but have to date not even attempted
>> to prove.

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> The burden of proof is on someone who says that the interests of a
> particular class of organisms deserve special consideration.


The burden of proof is on you limp challengers.