On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:46:02 -0700, the Goober wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:35:01 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:04:25 -0700, Goo wrote:
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>>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:04:58 -0400, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:53:41 -0700, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:21:49 -0400, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:36:30 -0700, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:47:38 -0400, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:12:54 -0700, Goo wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
>>>>>>>>>ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Below are all true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you're saying that some people SHOULD become vegans, Goo.
>>>>>
>>>>>No
>>>>
>>>> You say so specifically you stupid Goober.
>>>
>>>No.
>>
>> Here's a clue for you Goo: When you say some people should be vegans, you're
>>saying some people should be vegans.
>>
>>>>>, I'm saying it's a logically consistent choice for some people who
>>>>>have irrational and wrong notions about animals.
>>>>
>>>> You're saying that some people SHOULD become vegans, Goo.
>>>
>>>No.
>>
>> Here's a clue for you Goo: When you say some people should be vegans, you're
>>saying some people should be vegans.
>
>No.

Yes Goob though it may be too much for you to comprehend, when you say some
people should be vegans, you're saying some people should be vegans.

>What I say is that "veganism" is a logically consistent choice

Why do you want people to believe that Goo?

>>>>>>>>"People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans"." - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>""vegans" are interested in their influence on animals,
>>>>>>>>****wit. They want everyone to be "vegan", which would
>>>>>>>>mean no animals raised for food and other products. That's
>>>>>>>>an influence, whether you like it or not." - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>logically one MUST conclude that not raising them in the first place is the
>>>>>>>>ethically superior choice." - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
>>>>>>>>And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would
>>>>>>>>live in bad conditions." - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>you MUST believe that it makes moral sense not
>>>>>>>>to raise the animals as the only way to prevent the harm that
>>>>>>>>results from killing them." - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
>>>>>>>>than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
>>>>>>>>their deaths" - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
>>>>>>>>of the animals erases all of it." - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Humans could change it. They could change it by ending it." - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm animals not to
>>>>>>>>exist as a step towards creating a more just world." - Goo