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Always put quotes around "vegan"
On 3/23/2012 1:40 PM, Rupert wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/19/2012 9:39 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaltation and sanctimony.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is inherently ugly, and
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There isn't any such authentic desire. It's really all about the ego
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-image of the so-called "vegan".
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it doesn't. You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own ego gratification and self-exaltation.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think that?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you ask pointless questions?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really!?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Do you perhaps have some alternative explanation in mind?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem very willing to share your thoughts with me at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't ask me to share them - you just asked me if I had any.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I would be interested to hear what the alternative explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that you have in mind, if you care to share it.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll give some consideration (!) to sharing it.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I hope you will share it, because the chances are it will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amusingly stupid.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it almost certainly would not be.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presumably you know what alternative explanation you have in mind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why I asked the question.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you say that it "almost certainly would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be" amusingly stupid, does that mean that there is some doubt in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your mind about the matter?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why do you say "almost certainly" as opposed to "certainly"?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you teaching beginning algebra in Germany?- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not doing any teaching, why?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then how are you ****ing away your time in Germany?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing research on topological twin buildings and topological groups.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, the telemarketing job was a bust, eh?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why you keep carrying on about that telemarketing job.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it suited you.
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>>>>>>>>>>> You think a lot of things.
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>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and nearly all of them are high-quality thoughts. Among them are
>>>>>>>>>> what an arrogant and egotistical goof you are.
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>>>>>>>>> A lot of people who know me better than you do don't think I'm
>>>>>>>>> arrogant and egotistical.
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>>>>>>>> I'm sure a lot of people think ****wit makes perfect sense, too.
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>>>>>>> I find that rather unlikely.
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>>>>>> You don't know the circle of people with whom ****wit associates.
>>>>>> ****wit has said that his associates find his bizarre, poorly founded
>>>>>> blabbering about philosophy and ethics to be very sensible. We know
>>>>>> already that ****wit's associates are as wretchedly uneducated as he is
>>>>>> - guys who have maintenance jobs in rural taverns or occasional work as
>>>>>> band roadies as ****wit has said he has don't tend to associate with
>>>>>> thinking people.
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>>>>>> I /do/ know the class of people with whom you associate, because
>>>>>> although I didn't complete my Ph.D., I was around those people for a
>>>>>> long time, and some people I know who did finish the program are still
>>>>>> friends and acquaintances.
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>>>>> Another point you're missing, George, is that quite a lot of my family
>>>>> and friends haven't done any kind of postgraduate study, and yet they
>>>>> still don't think that I'm arrogant and egotistical.
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>>>> They're suck-ups.
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>>> You're a fool.
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>> You're an arrogant and egotistical clueless urbanite. **** off.
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> Go and stuff your head up a pig.
Go have yourself a "vegan breakfast"
( http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...an%20Breakfast)
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