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On Mar 22, 5:47*pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
> On 3/22/2012 9:29 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> > On 22 Mrz., 16:38, George > *wrote:
> >> On 3/22/2012 2:28 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>> On Mar 22, 5:12 am, George > * *wrote:
> >>>> On 3/21/2012 8:40 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>> On Mar 21, 9:53 pm, George > * * *wrote:
> >>>>>> On 3/21/2012 12:22 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 8:14 pm, George > * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 3/21/2012 12:02 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 8:00 pm, George > * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2012 11:40 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 7:36 pm, George > * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2012 10:59 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 6:13 pm, George > * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2012 9:27 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Mrz., 17:19, George > * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2012 9:12 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2012 12:08 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2012 11:53 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2012 10:03 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2012 8:44 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 4:13 pm, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/19/2012 10:31 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 7:27 pm, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/19/2012 9:39 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 4:29 pm, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 11:37 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 7:15 am, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 11:07 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaltation and sanctimony.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There isn't any such authentic desire. *It's really all about the ego
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-image of the so-called "vegan".

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it doesn't. *You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own ego gratification and self-exaltation.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think that?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you ask pointless questions?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really!?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Do you perhaps have some alternative explanation in mind?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem very willing to share your thoughts with me at the
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't ask me to share them - you just asked me if I had any.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I would be interested to hear what the alternative explanation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that you have in mind, if you care to share it..

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll give some consideration (!) to sharing it.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I hope you will share it, because the chances are it will be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amusingly stupid.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it almost certainly would not be.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presumably you know what alternative explanation you have in mind of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why I asked the question.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you say that it "almost certainly would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be" amusingly stupid, does that mean that there is some doubt in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your mind about the matter?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.- Zitierten Text ausblenden -

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why do you say "almost certainly" as opposed to "certainly"?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you teaching beginning algebra in Germany?- Zitierten Text ausblenden -

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not doing any teaching, why?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then how are you ****ing away your time in Germany?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing research on topological twin buildings and topological groups.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, the telemarketing job was a bust, eh?

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> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why you keep carrying on about that telemarketing job.

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> >>>>>>>>>> I thought it suited you.

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> >>>>>>>>> You think a lot of things.

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> >>>>>>>> Yes, and nearly all of them are high-quality thoughts. *Among them are
> >>>>>>>> what an arrogant and egotistical goof you are.

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> >>>>>>> A lot of people who know me better than you do don't think I'm
> >>>>>>> arrogant and egotistical.

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> >>>>>> I'm sure a lot of people think ****wit makes perfect sense, too.

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> >>>>> I find that rather unlikely.

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> >>>> You don't know the circle of people with whom ****wit associates.
> >>>> ****wit has said that his associates find his bizarre, poorly founded
> >>>> blabbering about philosophy and ethics to be very sensible. *We know
> >>>> already that ****wit's associates are as wretchedly uneducated as he is
> >>>> - guys who have maintenance jobs in rural taverns or occasional work as
> >>>> band roadies as ****wit has said he has don't tend to associate with
> >>>> thinking people.

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> >>>> I /do/ know the class of people with whom you associate, because
> >>>> although I didn't complete my Ph.D., I was around those people for a
> >>>> long time, and some people I know who did finish the program are still
> >>>> friends and acquaintances.

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> >>> Another point you're missing, George, is that quite a lot of my family
> >>> and friends haven't done any kind of postgraduate study, and yet they
> >>> still don't think that I'm arrogant and egotistical.

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> >> They're suck-ups.

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> > You're a fool.

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> You're an arrogant and egotistical clueless urbanite. ***** off.


Go and stuff your head up a pig.