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Default Always put quotes around "vegan"

On Mar 21, 7:36*pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
> On 3/21/2012 10:59 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> > On Mar 21, 6:13 pm, George > *wrote:
> >> On 3/21/2012 9:27 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>> On 21 Mrz., 17:19, George > * *wrote:
> >>>> On 3/21/2012 9:12 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>> On 21 Mrz., 15:55, George > * * *wrote:
> >>>>>> On 3/21/2012 12:08 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 7:58 am, George > * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 3/20/2012 11:53 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2012 8:44 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaltation and sanctimony.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There isn't any such authentic desire. *It's really all about the ego
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-image of the so-called "vegan".

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This belief of yours strikes me as irrational..

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it doesn't. *You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own ego gratification and self-exaltation.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think that?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you ask pointless questions?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really!?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Do you perhaps have some alternative explanation in mind?

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem very willing to share your thoughts with me at the
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> >>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't ask me to share them - you just asked me if I had any.

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> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, I would be interested to hear what the alternative explanation
> >>>>>>>>>>> is that you have in mind, if you care to share it.

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> >>>>>>>>>> I'll give some consideration (!) to sharing it.

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> >>>>>>>>> Well, I hope you will share it, because the chances are it will be
> >>>>>>>>> amusingly stupid.

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> >>>>>>>> No, it almost certainly would not be.

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> >>>>>>> Presumably you know what alternative explanation you have in mind of
> >>>>>>> why I asked the question.

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> >>>>>> Yes.

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> >>>>>>> When you say that it "almost certainly would
> >>>>>>> not be" amusingly stupid, does that mean that there is some doubt in
> >>>>>>> your mind about the matter?

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> >>>>>> No.- Zitierten Text ausblenden -

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> >>>>> Then why do you say "almost certainly" as opposed to "certainly"?

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> >>>> Are you teaching beginning algebra in Germany?- Zitierten Text ausblenden -

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> >>> No, I'm not doing any teaching, why?

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> >> Then how are you ****ing away your time in Germany?

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> > Doing research on topological twin buildings and topological groups.

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> So, the telemarketing job was a bust, eh?


I don't know why you keep carrying on about that telemarketing job. I
did it for a couple of months back in 2007, then I quit it to go to
Shanghai and work at a place called the Sino-British College. Then I
finished my PhD and worked at Australian Catholic University for
eighteen months, then I lectured and tutored at Sydney University for
one semester and then I came to the University of Münster to do a post-
doc. The telemarketing job is old news, and you know this. And the
fact that I worked as a telemarketer for two months strikes me as
unimportant and uninteresting.