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Default Always put quotes around "vegan"

On 3/20/2012 11:53 PM, Rupert wrote:
> On Mar 20, 7:36 pm, George > wrote:
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>>> On Mar 20, 5:38 pm, George > wrote:
>>>> On 3/20/2012 8:44 AM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>> On Mar 20, 4:13 pm, George > wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/19/2012 10:31 PM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 7:27 pm, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/19/2012 9:39 AM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 4:29 pm, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 11:37 PM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 7:15 am, George > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 6:13 am, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 8:09 PM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 6:16 pm, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 1:07 AM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2:33 am, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2012 3:33 PM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 8:00 pm, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2012 8:33 AM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 3:50 pm, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2012 1:05 AM, Rupert wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 6:12 am, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a hideously ugly fake word on its face, and the loathsome
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas and false beliefs encapsulated in it are even more hideously ugly.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's ugly about the ideas involved in veganism?

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False morality is inherently ugly, especially when it involves self
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaltation and sanctimony.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe that a desire to do something about animal suffering
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There isn't any such authentic desire. It's really all about the ego
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-image of the so-called "vegan".

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This belief of yours strikes me as irrational.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it doesn't. You just say that to try to deflect attention from you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own ego gratification and self-exaltation.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How exactly do you think I am trying to exalt myself

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Believing that you're "better" than omnivores based on what you don't eat.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think that?

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>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you ask pointless questions?

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>>>>>>>>>>> I asked the question because I was curious to know the answer.

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>>>>>>>>>> Really?

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>>>>>>>>> Yes.

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>>>>>>>> Really!?

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>>>>>>> Yes. Do you perhaps have some alternative explanation in mind?

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>>>>>> Yes.

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>>>>> You don't seem very willing to share your thoughts with me at the
>>>>> moment.

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>>>> You didn't ask me to share them - you just asked me if I had any.

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>>> Well, I would be interested to hear what the alternative explanation
>>> is that you have in mind, if you care to share it.

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>> I'll give some consideration (!) to sharing it.

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> Well, I hope you will share it, because the chances are it will be
> amusingly stupid.


No, it almost certainly would not be.