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Default "veganism" is bullshit


"Rupert" > wrote
> On Mar 15, 2:51 am, "Dutch" > wrote:
>> >Rupert" > wrote
>> > On Mar 14, 10:04 pm, "Dutch" > wrote:
>> >> One compelling argument that you have definitely seen was given in
>> >> great
>> >> detail in the vegan shuffle argument.

>>
>> > Perhaps you can tell me which one you have in mind.

>>
>> The "shuffle". The vegan's core belief is that by going vegan one is no
>> longer complicit in animal suffering. When the fallaciousness of that
>> belief
>> is pointed out to them they start shuffling. This takes various forms,
>> such
>> as a retreat to the "less suffering" position or a switch to the
>> "injustice"
>> position.

>
> How is that evidence that the motivation for going vegan is not to
> help animals?


If the motivation were to help animals then there would be no shifting of
arguments, no angry denials, the response would be one of simply
acknowledging the receipt of new, helpful, constructive information.
You've done that to some extent, but you're not typical either.