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"father of the bride" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:27:43 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Rupert" > wrote in message
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>>> On Mar 7, 10:12 pm, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>>> "Derek" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:davcl7dgen51h2oq7a69u3vr25ci1emro8@Derek...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:59:20 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>"Derek" > wrote
>>>> >>> Don't pay any attention to the naysayers here.
>>>>
>>>> >>That's bad advice.
>>>>
>>>> >>> Their only objective
>>>> >>> is to make vegans feel that their efforts are worthless.
>>>>
>>>> >>Some of their efforts have merit, for example a well designed vegan
>>>> >>diet
>>>> >>can
>>>> >>be healthy,
>>>>
>>>> > You say that now, but you'll soon be back to saying,
>>>>
>>>> > "As I have mentioned here before, failure to thrive is
>>>> > one of vegetarianism's dirty little secrets. I have
>>>> > experienced it first- hand, my family returned to eating
>>>> > meat after 18 years as vegetarians because of it."
>>>> > Dutch Aug 5 2004 http://tinyurl.com/yd5u5a
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't contradict what I said above.
>>>>
>>>> > Face it, Dutch, there's not a single issue that's been raised
>>>> > here, or anywhere, that you haven't lied about. You even
>>>> > lied about having kids to make that particular lie more
>>>> > convincing.
>>>>
>>>> No I didn't.
>>>
>>> Did you or did you not have kids? Isn't it the case that you have
>>> given inconsistent testimony about that on different occasions?

>>
>>None of your business and no, I haven't.

>
> You lied, and Pearl (Lesley) got you to admit you'd lied, so don't
> lie again, Dutch.
>
> [start - Pearl to Dutch]
> > Of course I DON'T believe you. No one does. How could we.
> > You LIED about having CHILDREN, for heaven's sake. GLL!

> [Dutch replied]
> Nobody tells the whole truth all the time, and I advise strongly not to
> try
> to claim otherwise.
> [end]
> Dutch Oct 23 2006 http://tinyurl.com/6psp6h7
>
> And that, coming from someone who wrote,
>
> "You will never, ever catch me in a lie, because I don't."
> Dutch Oct 16 2006 http://tinyurl.com/yxt76l
>
> just a couple of weeks earlier on the same day in the same thread that
> I caught you bare-faced lying about having kids.


Don't attempt to imply that everything you say is the complete truth Derek,
that's not credible.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...udy-finds.html