"father of the bride" > wrote in message
news:cacml79sd92idg3ebhq5i9fl77g91hdh4g@father_of_ the_bride...
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:51:42 -0800 (PST), Rupert
> > wrote:
>>On Mar 7, 10:12 pm, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>> "Derek" > wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:59:20 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>> >>"Derek" > wrote
>>> >>
>>> >>> Don't pay any attention to the naysayers here.
>>>
>>> >>That's bad advice.
>>>
>>> >>> Their only objective
>>> >>> is to make vegans feel that their efforts are worthless.
>>>
>>> >>Some of their efforts have merit, for example a well
>>> >>designed vegan diet can be healthy,
>>>
>>> > You say that now, but you'll soon be back to saying,
>>>
>>> > "As I have mentioned here before, failure to thrive is
>>> > one of vegetarianism's dirty little secrets. I have
>>> > experienced it first- hand, my family returned to eating
>>> > meat after 18 years as vegetarians because of it."
>>> > Dutch Aug 5 2004 http://tinyurl.com/yd5u5a
>>>
>>> That doesn't contradict what I said above.
>
> Yes, it does.

No, it doesn't.

>You said that "a well-designed vegan diet can
> be healthy" above,

It can.

> but you've often said that it isn't

Sometimes it isn't.

> and that
> a failure to thrive on it is one of vegetarianism's dirty little
> secrets.

It is. http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w...b-scen1b.shtml

> The only dirty little secret I can see is yours. You
> haven't had any kids.

Whether I actually have kids or I prefer to refer to 'my kids' in the
hypothetical should be none of your concern.

> You don't have a family.

Yes I do.

> They and you
> didn't fail to thrive on a vegetarian diet. Your anecdotal
> evidence used to support your arguments is a lie.

Yes we did, but if you don't believe me just read this
http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w...b-scen1b.shtml