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Default The 'vegan' shuffle

On 3/10/2012 6:44 AM, Rupert wrote:
> On 10 Mrz., 15:00, George > wrote:
>> On 3/10/2012 1:40 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>>> On Mar 5, 4:42 pm, George > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's an insincere and time-wasting question.

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>>>>>>>>>>> So you appear to believe.

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>>>>>>>>>> Because it is.

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>>>>>>>>> You reckon?

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>>>>>>>> Guaranteed.

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>>>>>>> How do you know?

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>>>>>> I have lots of experience with your insincerity and time-wasting efforts.

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>>>>> I don't believe that I have any way of knowing how the number of
>>>>> premature deaths caused per calorically equivalent serving of tofu
>>>>> compares with that for grass-fed beef or wild-caught fish.

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>>>> You know, intuitively and based on plausibility, that raising the
>>>> vegetable crops you would have to substitute in order to get equivalent
>>>> nutrition causes multiple CDs, and that 100% grass-fed beef or
>>>> wild-caught fish causes none.

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>>> No. I don't know that

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>> You do know it.

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> You referred to Steven Davis' estimates of the death toll associated
> with crop production as "reliable" when discussing the matter with
> Glen, yes? That estimate was 15 collateral deaths per hectare, yes?
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> And do you wish to quarrel with Gaverick Matheny's assertion that "In
> one year, 1,000 kilograms of protein can be produced on as few as 1.0
> hectares planted with soy and corn"? And that 20 kilograms of protein
> per year is recommended for adults?


Everyone who eats some part - *any* part - of the produce coming from a
15 CDs hectare "owns" all 15 CDs. So, if a person eats some corn and
some soy, he "owns" 30 CDs right there.

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