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Default vicarious moral responsibility

On Mar 8, 5:09*pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
> On 3/8/2012 7:43 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> > On Mar 8, 4:42 pm, George > *wrote:
> >> On 3/8/2012 12:05 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>> On Mar 7, 9:32 pm, George > * *wrote:
> >>>> "glen" or "mark" or "little cocksucker" - the friend of Lesley Simon,
> >>>> the Whore of Ballaghaderreen, County Roscommon - has it. *He shares
> >>>> moral responsibility for the animal CDs caused in order to put food on
> >>>> his plate. *This cannot be rationally disputed.

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> >>>> His relationship with the hands-on killers of animals has these elements:

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> >>>> * the relationship is voluntary - no coercion applied to the principal

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> >>>> * the principal is an active participant, i.e., actively engages in
> >>>> * * *the relationship such as, for example, going to the grocery

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> >>>> * the principal is fully aware of the agent's actions

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> >>>> * the relationship is not instrumentally necessary for the principal to
> >>>> * * *achieve a legitimate goal, e.g. the acquisition of food

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> >>>> "mark" or "glen" or "little cocksucker" or whatever he is this week
> >>>> doesn't need to hire an agent at all, and he doesn't need to hire one
> >>>> who kills animals collaterally. *That he does makes him share moral
> >>>> responsibility for the deaths of animals. *He cannot claim to be living
> >>>> a "cruelty free 'lifestyle'", and he sure as hell isn't "minimizing" his
> >>>> CD footprint because he has never measured.

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> >>> Your injection of carbon emission's into our planet's atmosphere has
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> >>> * *- It is voluntary; no-one is coercing you into doing it.

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> >>> * *- You are an active participant

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> >>> * *- You are fully aware of the likely consequences of continued
> >>> injection of carbon emissions into our planet's atmosphere for other
> >>> humans

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> >>> * *- It is not instrumentally necessary for you to achieve any
> >>> legitimate goal.

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> >>> You therefore have vicarious moral responsibility for the future harms
> >>> to humans that will take place that will have been contributed to by
> >>> your activity.

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> >> Yep - I never denied it, either.

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> > Okay, good. Would you also agree that it is more than likely that some
> > humans will very prematurely die in the future as a result of
> > anthropogenic climate change to which your activity has contributed?

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> Still trying to find some way to make the dispersed sand of that fake
> pedestal come back together like a rock, are you, Woopert? *It won't
> work. *Your belief about your moral pose is false.


I don't know what belief you are talking about, and it would be really
great if you could just answer the questions.