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Default vicarious moral responsibility

On 3/8/2012 7:43 AM, Rupert wrote:
> On Mar 8, 4:42 pm, George > wrote:
>> On 3/8/2012 12:05 AM, Rupert wrote:
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>>> On Mar 7, 9:32 pm, George > wrote:
>>>> "glen" or "mark" or "little cocksucker" - the friend of Lesley Simon,
>>>> the Whore of Ballaghaderreen, County Roscommon - has it. He shares
>>>> moral responsibility for the animal CDs caused in order to put food on
>>>> his plate. This cannot be rationally disputed.

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>>>> His relationship with the hands-on killers of animals has these elements:

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>>>> * the relationship is voluntary - no coercion applied to the principal

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>>>> * the principal is an active participant, i.e., actively engages in
>>>> the relationship such as, for example, going to the grocery

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>>>> * the principal is fully aware of the agent's actions

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>>>> * the relationship is not instrumentally necessary for the principal to
>>>> achieve a legitimate goal, e.g. the acquisition of food

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>>>> "mark" or "glen" or "little cocksucker" or whatever he is this week
>>>> doesn't need to hire an agent at all, and he doesn't need to hire one
>>>> who kills animals collaterally. That he does makes him share moral
>>>> responsibility for the deaths of animals. He cannot claim to be living
>>>> a "cruelty free 'lifestyle'", and he sure as hell isn't "minimizing" his
>>>> CD footprint because he has never measured.

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>>> Your injection of carbon emission's into our planet's atmosphere has
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>>> - It is voluntary; no-one is coercing you into doing it.

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>>> - You are an active participant

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>>> - You are fully aware of the likely consequences of continued
>>> injection of carbon emissions into our planet's atmosphere for other
>>> humans

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>>> - It is not instrumentally necessary for you to achieve any
>>> legitimate goal.

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>>> You therefore have vicarious moral responsibility for the future harms
>>> to humans that will take place that will have been contributed to by
>>> your activity.

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>> Yep - I never denied it, either.

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> Okay, good. Would you also agree that it is more than likely that some
> humans will very prematurely die in the future as a result of
> anthropogenic climate change to which your activity has contributed?


Still trying to find some way to make the dispersed sand of that fake
pedestal come back together like a rock, are you, Woopert? It won't
work. Your belief about your moral pose is false.