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Default vicarious moral responsibility

On Mar 8, 4:42*pm, George Plimpton > wrote:
> On 3/8/2012 12:05 AM, Rupert wrote:
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> > On Mar 7, 9:32 pm, George > *wrote:
> >> "glen" or "mark" or "little cocksucker" - the friend of Lesley Simon,
> >> the Whore of Ballaghaderreen, County Roscommon - has it. *He shares
> >> moral responsibility for the animal CDs caused in order to put food on
> >> his plate. *This cannot be rationally disputed.

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> >> His relationship with the hands-on killers of animals has these elements:

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> >> * the relationship is voluntary - no coercion applied to the principal

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> >> * the principal is an active participant, i.e., actively engages in
> >> * * the relationship such as, for example, going to the grocery

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> >> * the principal is fully aware of the agent's actions

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> >> * the relationship is not instrumentally necessary for the principal to
> >> * * achieve a legitimate goal, e.g. the acquisition of food

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> >> "mark" or "glen" or "little cocksucker" or whatever he is this week
> >> doesn't need to hire an agent at all, and he doesn't need to hire one
> >> who kills animals collaterally. *That he does makes him share moral
> >> responsibility for the deaths of animals. *He cannot claim to be living
> >> a "cruelty free 'lifestyle'", and he sure as hell isn't "minimizing" his
> >> CD footprint because he has never measured.

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> > Your injection of carbon emission's into our planet's atmosphere has
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> > * - It is voluntary; no-one is coercing you into doing it.

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> > * - You are an active participant

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> > * - You are fully aware of the likely consequences of continued
> > injection of carbon emissions into our planet's atmosphere for other
> > humans

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> > * - It is not instrumentally necessary for you to achieve any
> > legitimate goal.

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> > You therefore have vicarious moral responsibility for the future harms
> > to humans that will take place that will have been contributed to by
> > your activity.

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> Yep - I never denied it, either.


Okay, good. Would you also agree that it is more than likely that some
humans will very prematurely die in the future as a result of
anthropogenic climate change to which your activity has contributed?
If that takes place, do you agree that it constitutes a rights
violation?