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Default vicarious moral responsibility

On 3/8/2012 5:35 AM, Glen wrote:
> On 07/03/2012 20:32, George Plimpton wrote:
>> "glen" or "mark" or "little cocksucker" - the friend of Lesley Simon, the Whore of Ballaghaderreen, County Roscommon - has it. He shares moral responsibility for the animal CDs caused in order to put food on his plate. This cannot be rationally disputed.

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> Yes it can.


Nope - not rationally; only by bullshitting.


>> His relationship with the hands-on killers of animals has these elements:
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>> * the relationship is voluntary - no coercion applied to the principal
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>> * the principal is an active participant, i.e., actively engages in
>> the relationship such as, for example, going to the grocery
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>> * the principal is fully aware of the agent's actions
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>> * the relationship is not instrumentally necessary for the principal to
>> achieve a legitimate goal, e.g. the acquisition of food

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> Stop killing humans with


You cause animals to die. You are morally responsible. Your belief
about your moral stance is false.


>> "mark" or "glen" or "little cocksucker" or whatever he is this week
>> doesn't need to hire an agent at all, and he doesn't need to hire one
>> who kills animals collaterally. That he does makes him share moral
>> responsibility for the deaths of animals. He cannot claim to be living
>> a "cruelty free 'lifestyle'", and he sure as hell isn't "minimizing" his
>> CD footprint because he has never measured.

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