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Default The 'vegan' shuffle

On 7 Mrz., 17:21, George Plimpton > wrote:
> On 3/6/2012 11:16 PM, Rupert wrote:
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> > On Mar 6, 4:52 pm, George > *wrote:
> >> On 3/6/2012 12:46 AM, Rupert wrote:

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> >>> On Mar 5, 4:42 pm, George > * *wrote:

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> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's an insincere and time-wasting question.

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> >>>>>>>>>>> So you appear to believe.

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> >>>>>>>>>> Because it is.

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> >>>>>>>>> You reckon?

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> >>>>>>>> Guaranteed.

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> >>>>>>> How do you know?

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> >>>>>> I have lots of experience with your insincerity and time-wasting efforts.

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> >>>>> I don't believe that I have any way of knowing how the number of
> >>>>> premature deaths caused per calorically equivalent serving of tofu
> >>>>> compares with that for grass-fed beef or wild-caught fish.

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> >>>> You know, intuitively and based on plausibility, that raising the
> >>>> vegetable crops you would have to substitute in order to get equivalent
> >>>> nutrition causes multiple CDs, and that 100% grass-fed beef or
> >>>> wild-caught fish causes none.

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> >>> No. I don't know that my expected contribution to collateral deaths by
> >>> buying one serving of tofu is greater than one.

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> >> Of course you do. *You can't *NOT* know it.

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> > On the basis of what evidence do I know it?

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> Sorry, Woopert - we've been over all this before, and now you're just
> trying to refight battles you've already lost.


No, we haven't been through it before.

It strikes me as entirely implausible that one collateral death takes
place for every serving of tofu I eat. You've never presented the
least evidence for this contention. Your assertion that I "can't not
know it" is obviously utterly absurd.