On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:13:40 -0800 (PST), Rupert > wrote:

>On Mar 6, 7:25*pm, Derek > wrote:

>> Take Rupert. He says he's an animal rights advocate and
>> gives talks on the subject. But he too caved in and now
>> promotes animal welfare which reinforces the view that
>> killing animals for food can be a better option to veganism
>> if farming animals reduces animal suffering found in crop
>> production.
>>
>> "I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised
>> * for food on farms have lives which are such that it is
>> * better that they live that life than that they not live at
>> * all"
>> * Rupert 24 July 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5m8t28
>>
>> "Look, you might be right that there's some advantage
>> * in switching to grass-fed beef or game. Fine, why not?
>> * I don't see this contention as an enormous threat to the
>> * animal-rights agenda.
>> * Rupert 12 May 2007 http://tinyurl.com/5o3lgp
>>
>> He's psychotic and doesn't know what the hell he's talking
>> about, but that doesn't stop him from promoting animal
>> cruelty while claiming it isn't a threat to the animal rights
>> agenda.
>
>Making these statements

.... presents a false dilemma, and you know it. New welfarism
demands we either continue using animal welfare practices
or do nothing to alleviate the suffering. It reinforces the idea
that animals can be exploited and drives home the message
that happy meat is preferable to doing nothing at all. It excludes
abolition.