On Feb 23, 5:57*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Feb 23, 4:56*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 23, 4:38*pm, David Dyer-Bennet > wrote:
>
> > > dsi1 > writes:
> > > > On 2/23/2012 5:38 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > > >> > *writes:
> > > >>> No doubt you are correct about this. I can't think of a damn thing.
>
> > > >> Rape-torture-murder of your daughter? *(Or of somebody very important in
> > > >> your life.)
>
> > > > Loyalty arises out of obligation. If you spend time thinking of
> > > > reasons to get out of your obligations, you haven't quite gotten the
> > > > concept of loyalty. As it goes, I'm only loyal to my wife and kids and
> > > > my dad. My father has people that are loyal to him and I admire him
> > > > for that but do not envy his position - I consider that to be a heavy
> > > > weight to carry.
>
> > > It's no effort. As I say, you clearly have a rather mild imagination.
>
> > > From my point of view, you claimed a level of loyalty that was
> > > essentially infinite, and *that* isn't something I believe in.
>
> > Good point. The only "infinite" loyalty I have is to my son, which is
> > exemplified when years ago a boating friend of mine asked me if I
> > absolutely HAD to kill one or the other, would I kill my father or my
> > son? And I without hesitation I said "My father, and I would expect my
> > son to make the same choice if forced to." And he knew that I knew
> > exactly what he was getting at my asking such a question.
>
> > But that absolute notwithstanding, I think it's reasonable to expect a
> > somewhat less extreme level of loyalty between long time "friends".
> > Bryan was the "friend" I had for the longest time of people not
> > related by blood to me. And I finally realized what I had been
> > suspecting for a LONG time now, that Bryan is no longer any kind of
> > "friend" to me, if he ever was. I think he was more in the past. For
> > chrissakes, we lived together 3 times, and almost came to fisticuffs
> > that 3rd time! But he was never such a deliberate and extreme asshole
> > to me as he was here on RFC. Never. *That was the level of loyalty we
> > used to respect with each other. Being at least minimally decent and
> > sometimes better than that to each other.
>
> > I knows Bryan will turn this around and say "But you called me
> > obsessed!" But he is, as evidenced over and over and over.
>
> You're every bit as obsessed...with calling me obsessed. *You have not
> been minimally decent either, basically calling me a fool. *You, Sir,
> are the fool. *Whereas before you started this bullshit, the
> likelihood that any employer who bothered to do the most cursory
> search of the internet, would have been very unlikely to give you a
> nursing job, after this bullshit, your chances are further
> diminished. *Think about it from their perspective. *You look like a
> guy who is anything *but* fascinated by details about nutrition, and
> you make psychiatric diagnoses over the internet. *Would *you* hire
> someone like you? *You're more concerned about looking like the winner
> of an argument than you are about public health, or even if you aren't
> really, most reasonable folks would see it that way.
> But you just couldn't stop insulting me, even though it made you look
> worse and worse, and less and less appealing to prospective
> employers. *You're the obsessed one, the out of control one. *I bet
> you wish you'd never used your real name on the internet. *You might
> as well keep going with your "Bryan is obsessed" posts because you
> couldn't look any worse than you do right now, and everyone here, even
> you, knows that's true.
>
>
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
> --Bryan

Told ya so!

;-)

John Kuthe...