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<dh@.> wrote in message ...
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:29:04 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
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>><dh@.> wrote in message ...
>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:14:34 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
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>>>><dh@.> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:56:31 +0000, Derek >
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:49:48 -0800, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:22:12 +0000, Nemo (heh heh heh)
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>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>On 10/01/2012 23:13, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:31:27 +0000, Nemo (heh heh heh)
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2012 20:32, Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > (heh heh heh) wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why Veganism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For compassion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's my reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you considered the collateral impact of those vegan
>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives? For
>>>>>>>>>>> example leather is a by-product of the meat industry,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No it is not a by-product. More animals are slaughtered than
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> otherwise be for their meat for leather.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you figure that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Leather is a co-product of the meat industry, not a by-product of
>>>>>>>>it. It's an economically dependent product of meat production made
>>>>>>>>simultaneously with it to make each affordable to the consumer and
>>>>>>>>thereby increases the demand for slaughtered animals. A by-product
>>>>>>>>is something produced incidentally to another product that isn't
>>>>>>>>economically dependent on it for its production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leather is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Most consumers mistakenly assume that leather is merely
>>>>>> a by-product of the meat industry, and that buying leather
>>>>>> clothing does not increase the number of animals slaughtered.
>>>>>> However, this belief ignores the economic interdependence
>>>>>> of factory farming and the leather trade. In reality, leather is
>>>>>> a co-product of the meat industry, generating significant
>>>>>> profits for both factory farms and the leather trade itself. In
>>>>>> fact, without the lucrative sale of animal skins for leather,
>>>>>> factory farms would not even be able to turn a profit by
>>>>>> selling meat alone.
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>>>>> Provide some reason to believe the claim. Go:
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>>>>Humans have NEVER considered animal hides to be waste.
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>>> They are waste to the vast majority of the food industry. Duh. You
>>> need
>>> to
>>> provide some evidence that MORE cattle experience life because of
>>> leather,
>>> than
>>> do exist because they're raised to be used for food. Go:

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>>You just need to shut up.

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> LOL!!! You reveal yourself yet AGAIN by being opposed to pointing out
> that
> NO more cattle experience life because humans buy leather than would exist
> if
> they did not, much less does buying a belt cause any "extra" bovine to
> live
> anywhere on this or any other planet. Duh again. ONLY an eliminationist
> would be
> opposed to seeing that fact clearly pointed out and included in the
> equation.


Why is that? And of what importance is the number of cattle who "experience
life"?