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Old 18-11-2011, 06:33 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.religion.hindu,alt.food.vegan,alt.support.diabetes
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Default A Wholesome, Plant-Based Diet May Cut Risks and Complications of Diabetes

In article , jaym1212
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|:| there's also the glycemic index you need to look at. fruits such as papaya, mango,
|:| pineapple, etc. are just as bad as straight sugar ...
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|:|If a person ate nothing but papaya, mango and pineapple (and maybe
|:|some B12), how long would it take an average non-diabetic to become
|:|one? I am worried because I have been eating primarily cantaloupes and
|:|bananas for the past two months and according to fitday, averaging 88%
|:|carbs, 7% protein and 5% fat (1% PUFA).

geoff bond from naturaleater.com has this 'savanna' model with 6 different levels, the
top level is green-green which is perfect, then comes green, which is in close
conformity, then green-amber, comfort zone or within the margin of tolerance of a healthy
person for daily consupmtion, then amber, slight lapse but tolerable regularly if rest of
diet is good, then amber-red, modest lapse and tolerable on occasion if rest of diet
good, then finally red, bad lapse, completely avoid. this is all in the book 'deadly
harvest'. that one you need to purchase.

for bananas he says: ``The degree of maturity can make a difference. Fruits, notably
bananas, have higher G.I.?s the riper they are.'' this is coming from:
http://www.naturaleater.com/natural-...appendix-1.htm

table 2 you can see lists them as foods to be eaten in controlled quantities, the
quantity being 1 banana, or 1 slice of melon. tables 3 4 and 5 are the G.I. tables, and
banana is listed in the borderline table (table 4) with an index of 45 if green, and
melon in the bad table (table 3), with an index of 70, but another difference is that the
melon is low density and the banana medium, so they sort of cancel out, banana is less
glycemic but more dense, the other high glycemic but low density.

this is the link to the whole book that's available online for free:
http://www.naturaleater.com/Natural-...-Web-Index.htm

this is another guide that can be downloaded:
http://www.naturaleater.com/guide/guide.htm

not sure if it's the same as the natural eating book, or something else. i haven't looked
at that one yet.