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Default Eat those Carbs! The ADA says you should!!


"Janet" > wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
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>>> Julie Bove wrote:
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>>>
>>>> Do you have a reading comprehension problem? They didn't say to eat
>>>> more carbs.
>>>
>>> There is no need to be rude, Julie. My reading comprehension is just
>>> fine. Perhaps if you think a bit more about the implications of what
>>> was said you will get my point.
>>>
>>> As far as quoting the ADA website is concerned, it's like the bible:
>>> you can find something there to prove virtually anything you want.
>>> It is obviously designed for maximum deniability. For the real
>>> message, I suggest reading the page[s] where they talk about "tight
>>> control." How they define it, and the degree of danger they ascribe
>>> to it, and so forth.

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>> It's not like the bible to me! To me the bible is merely a
>> meaningless book. I'm an atheist!
>>
>> I don't need to reread anything. The OP said to eat *more* carbs. I'm
>> sure it didn't say that at all.

>
> I don't "believe in" the bible in any religious way either, Julie. That
> is not the point. The point is that, like the pronouncements of the ADA on
> their website, it is frequently cited as an authority to support someone's
> opinion. And because of the way it is written, you can find justification
> for almost any course of action there if you wish. Ozgirl quoted from one
> part of it--I assume that's where she got that text, anyway--and I
> suggested that she go look at another part of it, which says something
> quite different.
>
> Since you insist on being literal minded to a degree that doesn't admit
> the existence of metaphor or simile, I suggest you go back and reread my
> posts. Then show me where I said "more." In fact, a simple glimpse at the
> thread title will tell you that I used the word "those."
>
> The article from Remedy, puporting to be from JHU, quotes various
> authorities in stating that it is dangerous to go below 130 gms of carb
> per day in the long term. I would venture to guess that would mean that
> the vast majority of T2 diabetics who are controlling their HBA1C below 6
> using diet, exercise, and perhaps metformin, would indeed have to eat
> significantly more carbs to meet their recomendation. It certainly would
> mean that for me.
>
> But frankly, I think the ultimate goal of Remedy Health Systems and big
> pharma and all of the medical industrial establishment is to make big $$.
> And one of the best ways to do that is to push T2s on to expensive
> medications. They aren't going to make big $$ if T2s control their BGs
> without taking all of those expensive drugs that, according to studies,
> perform no better than the cheap generic: metformin.


I didn't say you said it. I said the OP. Were you the OP? This has gone
on for so long now I can't remember who said what.