On Sep 27, 6:18*pm, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> Dickr wrote:
> > On 9/26/2011 10:58 PM, jebblue wrote:
> >> It's excellent! The Cab isn't bad either.
>
> > Some years ago the RG Pinot Noir was the "talk of the town"
> > in this NG. At that time it was produced in California and
> > many folks, including me, purchased vast quantities. Now,
> > the PN is a product of Italy. It's OK, cheap, and I purchase
> > a few bottles from time to time. I haven't tried any other
> > RGs lately but if you like them, go for it!
>
> Well put, Dick. *RG is an example of a "brand" wine that now sources
> from all over. *Other examples are Castle Rock, Cupcake, 2 Buck Chuck,
> etc. *The problem is knowing what you're getting since the contents can
> change radically from year to year (or, in the case of 2BC, even lot to lot)
>
> Mark Lipton

Tortoise Creek is another one. When Mel Masters sourced from the
Languedoc the wines were consistantly good and value priced at under
$15 for a number of varietals both red and white. Since the sourcing
changed to California for some of the varietals, the price went up and
the quality went down.