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Robert Lee
 
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Default MLF wanted, but too much SO2

After ferment there will be no Free SO2, the yeast do a very good job of
binding SO2 during the ferment.

However, MLF bacteria are inhibited by bound SO2, it is best to keep your
total under 40 - 50 ppm pre MLF.

High alcohol and low pH can also inhibit MLF

Rob L
"J Dixon" > wrote in message
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> Mark,
> I agree with Ed. It is not likely that even at 25ppm SO2 you would

stop
> MLF. Give it a bit of time, and if you dont have any results consider a

bit
> of ML Nutrient and raising the temp.
> John Dixon
> "Mark Willstatter" > wrote in message
> om...
> > (Brad B.) wrote in message

> . com>...
> > > Here's my situation: I have a small (about 10 gal.) batch of Merlot
> > > that has finished sugar fermentation and has been pressed and racked
> > > off the gross lees. There is still some lees in the bottom of the
> > > carboys. I inoculated with MLF culture (Chr. Hansen) and warmed up
> > > the wine to about 70 deg.F. So far, after about 4 days there is no
> > > activity and I suspect it is due to the SO2 I added at crush (about 50
> > > ppm). I initially added this amount due to some rot in the grapes I
> > > had, and completely forgot about the MLF I would need later.
> > >
> > > In any case, I checked free SO2 with a titret and I get about 35 ppm
> > > (which seems high following fermentation but I know those things
> > > aren't the most accurate). So, what should I do now? Did the high
> > > SO2 kill the ML culture or will they spring to life once the free SO2
> > > levels decrease to their liking? I am thinking about racking,
> > > stirring, and adding some ML food, but I am mostly curious about the
> > > effect this has on the culture and if I will need to add another
> > > culture later.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance...

> >
> > It would be very unusual for enough of your 50 ppm to remain after
> > primary fermentation to bother MLF. Also, titrets are well known to
> > overstate SO2 on the order of 30 ppm - so your test verifies that your
> > free SO2 is probably near zero. MLF likes having the lees around and
> > being anaerobic, prefers a high CO2 environment - neither of which
> > will be helped by racking. It also sometimes takes awhile to get
> > going - keep in mind that this is a process that can often take some
> > time to get started and weeks (or even a couple months) to complete.
> > Your temperature is fine and your MLF bacteria should have the
> > nutrients they need in what you have already. My advice at this point
> > would be to hang tight and be patient. Also, if you haven't done this
> > before, keep in mind that MLF activity is pretty subtle compared to
> > primary fermentation. When it's going strong, you can usually detect
> > tiny CO2 "comets" (assuming you're in glass), especially up at the
> > neck but it's usually not enough to make an airlock go wild. If you
> > don't see anything like that within a week or so, then maybe you can
> > start worrying! I hope that helps.
> >
> > - Mark W.

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