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Starbucks Obstructing First Union Vote
On 15 Jun 2004 13:57:22 -0700, (Martin) wrote:
>Wm James > wrote in message >. ..
>Before
>> >>you answer, if you can save 10% on something YOU buy by shopping
>> >>somewhere else, what would you choose?
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>There are many who make socially responsible purchases instead of
>opting for the 10% bargain. And we do not cross a picket line even if
>the inconvenience is considerable. Clearly Mr. James (any relation to
>the great pragmatist philosopher? hard to believe)
No, But I am related to Jesse James, President Davis, President Tyler,
David Duke, and Deputy Cecil Price of the the "Mississippi Burning"
insident. Want to poke fun at that? Go ahead. I'm fromMississippi,
I'm used to people substitutiong insults for discussion. 
> cannot imagine a
>sincere or democratic (read non-socialist, I suppose) motive for
>responsible action.
I do not see anything "responsible" in supporting thugs harassing
people. If they want to sell their labor they are free to do so. If
they don't then no one is forcing them. If they don't want to shop
somewhere, they don't have to, if they do, that's their business too.
When they act to prevent by force or intimidation or even
inconvenience to attempt to prevent others from exercising their
rights to work or shop, that are not acting responsibly, they are just
two bit thugs undeserving of respect or consideration.
>Given the structure of the corporate world in which thousands or more
>individuals collectively support a single management team that
>represents an entity with the considerable status and rights (in many
>important respects) of an individual, workers similarly organize to
>act as one in their bargaining. Seems fair enough. Power-to-power.
>The American way. That workers win as infrequently as they do simply
>shows that it's easier to buy power than to organize for it.
>Martin
Yep,they can organize all they want. And just like you aren't forced
to participate in some group's activities, neither should people who
own a business. If you want to start a union or a social club, go
ahead. But recognize the business owner's right to tell you to
participate in such things during your own time instead of his. If he
doesn't want to negotiate with your union, then you and your union
should advertise your labor for sale at whatever price you see fit
while the former employer buys labor from someone else. If he's
willing to negotiate, that's fine too. No peoblem. Just keep
government out of the business of butting into either party's business
and requiring participation. Fair enough?
William R. James
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