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<Alan > wrote in message
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> On 10 Jun 2004 16:41:19 -0500, Wm James
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:32:44 -0500, Alan wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:06:17 GMT, "zztop8970" > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>"G*rd*n" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>> > ...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> :
> >>>> > Why would any company want their employees following organized
crime
> >>>> > thugs?
> >>>> > ...
> >>>>
> >>>> One modest regular payment to the OCTs, and, voilà!
> >>>> Labor peace. Did you really need to ask?
> >>>
> >>>That's not an answer to the question he asked, but to a different
> >>>question - "what are the benefits of paying the union, once workers
have
> >>>unionized".
> >>>But, thnaks for conceding that a union is nothing more than a
"protection"
> >>>scam.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I've been in a union for 25 years, and I know that, without it, my
> >>salary would have been lower, the working conditions worse (lots of
> >>uncompensated overtime, for example) and I would either be dead from
> >>the stress and/or unemployed by now!
> >>
> >>They aren't all bad, and the situations vary as to whether or not a
> >>union is needed and is effective. In my case it was both needed and
> >>effective.
> >>
> >
> >
> >Are you saying that youcan't get a better price for your labor on the
> >open market, and that you need a thug organization to keep your price
> >artificially high?
> >
> >William R. Jam
>
>
> No, I'm saying that being able to bargain as a group got us better
> salary and working conditions than if we had to deal with management
> on an individual basis.
>
> As for the "open market", I have no desire to free-lance, and being in
> a union has meant that I could continue to work at the organization I
> work at -- because I want to work for that organization.
>

Huh. Sounds like you work for Disney.....people want to work there, but
without a decent union, the working conditions can be horrible.....I'm
referring to WDW, in particular.