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Michael Legel
 
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Default Starbucks Obstructing First Union Vote


"Wm James" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:51:41 GMT, "Michael Legel" >
> wrote:
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> >

> In a free society, no one is forced to trade with someone if they
> don't like the terms. If your employer doesn't want to buy your labor
> anymore, you have no more right to demand that he does than the cable
> company has to demand that you keep buying what they are selling. If
> he was paying $20 an hour for labor last week, and for whatever reason
> he sees fit, he decides he's no longing willing to pay more then $10,
> he still has to pay you the previous price for work you performed
> under that agreement, but he's no more obligated to force you to
> continue the previous arrangement than you are. You can stop selling
> your labor to him anytime you please, and he can stop buying it
> anytime he pleases. ANYONE bying anything has the right to decide
> what they are willing to pay. ANYONE trading has the right to decide
> how much they are willing to trade and for what.
>


I had assumed you were living in the U.S. My mistake. The U.S., where I
live, is not "a free society". There are numerous laws which prevent an
employer from going outside a union contract to fire an employee. My employer
is not "free" to fire anyone on a whim ... it is not an "open market" ... both
sides have agreed to abide by a contract under law which clearly states how
and why people are hired and fired.

> >Setting aside all your "open market" gibberish aside ...

>
> Rights are gibberish, huh? No wonder you need a union.


Again, in the U.S. there is no such thing as a "right" to an "open market".
Almost everything we do is regulated by law with licenses and permits required
to do business under specific terms. There is no such "right" in my country.
Where do you live?

>
> >let's set something
> >straight. Simply because you have no moral principle other than dollar

value
> >don't impugn that restriction on the rest of society. I won't buy ANYTHING
> >from Wal-mart, in fact I wouldn't take the time to go pick up something

they
> >were giving away. There are some costs in life beside the dollar cost and

I
> >will not support that anti-American company and many others. Yes, it does
> >cost me more money at times and some times we do without altogether, but

it's
> >the only way we can eventually rid ourselves of the leeches.
> >

>
> No problem. You aren'y obligated to buy from them. No one is
> obligated to buy from you either. Live with it.


I do "live with it" quite nicely. Why shouldn't I?


>
> William R. James
>