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Paragon
 
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Default Starbucks Workers Join IWW


"Stan de SD" > wrote in message
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> "Paragon" > wrote in message
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> > "Stan de SD" > wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "Dan Clore" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > G*rd*n wrote:
> > > > > "rebelguy" >:
> > > >
> > > > >>I FEEL SORRY FOR THESE STUPID PEOPLE, THEY WERE DUPED BY A MAXIST

> > LABOUR
> > > > >>UNION AND NOW WILL BE TURNING OVER LARGE PARTS OF WHAT THEY MAKE

TO
> A
> > > BUNCH
> > > > >>OF FAT,LAZY WHITE HAIRED UNION BOSS'S WHO SIT ON THEIR ASS'S ALL

DAY
> > > MAKING
> > > > >>50-60,000 A YEAR
> > > > >>
> > > > > Your cliché key is stuck.
> > > >
> > > > Not only cliché, but also untrue. In fact, I would hardly
> > > > know where to begin to untangle all the falsehoods in this
> > > > single sentence. It might make a fun challenge to see who
> > > > can point out the most.
> > >
> > > OK, Clore, tell us what they will get out of those union dues they

will
> > soon
> > > be forced to pay as a condition of working there. Retirement pensions?

> How
> > > many people are going to make a career of working at Starbucks? Health
> > > benefits? How long will they have to work to obtain those?
> > >
> > > Once again, the unions are trying to find a way of financing their

Ponzi
> > > scheme retirement plans by looking for new sources of union dues.

> > Suckering
> > > in workers who won't even be around next year to collect any

"benefits",
> > > much less 20 years from now, is a racket that any neophyte hustler can
> > > play... :O|

> >
> > Hmmmm......what do I get out my union...? Let me think: regular raises

> not
> > based on favortism, recognized seniority for schedule picks and

vacations,
> > overtime (no, it not all covered by the Federal law), better working
> > conditions, paid holidays,
> > health benefits (after I finished my probationary period of 90 days),

jury
> > duty pay, bereavement pay, a grievance procedure for when the boss

screws
> me
> > over (and he will), meal periods (no, the state and federal law don't

> really
> > touch that, either), report pay (so they don't call me in for 20 minutes

> of
> > work after a 30 minute drive), premium pay for certain jobs, transfer
> > guidelines, protection against managers doing my work and taking my

hours,
> > guidelines for drug testing.......

>
> I'm currently self-employed, and even with a lukewarm economy, my monthly
> income is 3-4 times what I earned at the only union job I ever worked.
> Again, the same question applies - given that benefits are aimed towards
> long-term career employees, how will the average college-age student

benefit
> when he or she is going to move down the road in a year or two?


Better working conditions, breaks, regular raises, sick pay, paid
holidays.....My company has a lot of college-age people, and they do benefit
from those things, even in the short term. I would like to know exactly
what brought on the desire for a union in this NY Starbucks. I doubt
someone woke up one day and said "hey, let's organize." Many times, it not
the unions who go in to try to organize, it's the employees who make the
first contact after putting up with all sorts of abuse from the employer.

Anyone know what precipitated this particular push?