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On Jan 7, 11:00*am, "Bi!!" > wrote:
> On Jan 6, 4:27*pm, DaleW > wrote:
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> > > On Jan 6, 1:05*pm, DaleW > wrote:

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> > > > Dave and Mary Kate graced us with their presence at dinner table last
> > > > night, Betsy decided to make Bolognese sauce, long a Dave fave.
> > > > Cooking/apertif wine was the 2009 Richard Bergerac Sec. Clean, crisp,
> > > > a little bit of grass. No apparent oak, nice but nothing that screams
> > > > buy again (though at $10 certainly acceptable value). B-

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> > > > With the pasta/ragu, Betsy also made broccoli and a "butter bean bagna
> > > > cauda" salad. I wanted Italian red, and brought up the 1997
> > > > Mastrobernardino Radici Taurasi. Some VA, cherries, a bit pruney. Big,
> > > > still a bit of rough tannin on the backend. Wait, why am I drinking
> > > > this? C+

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> > > > Replacement was the 2002 Montevertine. A bit too chilly, I decanted
> > > > and it gradually warmed up. Dried cherry, saddle leather, violets, a
> > > > bit of herb. This seems mature, midbodied, not a great Montevertine
> > > > but excellent for vintage. Probably at its best after couple hours in
> > > > decanter, last glass was falling apart a bit. B+/B

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> > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
> > > > wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
> > > > drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
> > > > promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency..*

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> > > While I've been a fan of Montevertine for years I've found the last
> > > few bottles I've openend ('97,'99, '00) have shown a bit more oak than
> > > I recalled (or prefer). *How was the oak on this vintage?

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> > Bill, I actually misread your question, thought you were asking about
> > the Taurasi. I didn't find noticable oak, I don't usually find
> > Montevertine oaky except maybe in young Pergole Torte. I know the
> > Sodaccio and PdC are all botti, and the Pergole Torte botti then
> > barrique of mixed age, but don't know what the regular/Riserva (they
> > just used to call it riserva if they thought vintage could use a bit
> > more bottle age) does, and if it has changed.- Hide quoted text -

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> My recollection is 24 months of Slovenian Oak on the regular
> Montevertine.


Gilman says 24 months in old Slovenian botti for the regular (which
used to be the Riserva), the PdC, and Sodaccio (which is temporarily
old of lineup, vines were grubbed up and replanted circa 2000). PT is
18 months in old botti, and then 6 months in barrique, no more than
25% new .