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Default Ellen's breakfast vis-à-vis morning readings


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>>>>>>> On 9/3/2010 4:39 PM, Ellen K. wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:25:42 -0700, "Ellen K."
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>>>>>>>>>> It needs CARBS to turn it off in the morning?
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>>>>>>>>> Yes, the mechanism is to turn off the release of glucose from the
>>>>>>>>> liver, by having just the right amount of carbs coming in from the
>>>>>>>>> digestion.
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>>>>>>>> Today instead of my usual romaine lettuce, I tried a whole raw
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>>>>>>>> pepper with my cheese, i.e. about 5 gm net carbs instead of 2. Here
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> my numbers:
>>>>>>>> 5:58 98 This is shortly after getting up, and incidentally my
>>>>>>>> lowest FBG
>>>>>>>> so far.
>>>>>>>> 6:33 104 Right before breakfast. Finished the food at 7:08.
>>>>>>>> 7:53 137 45 minutes after finishing the food, missed testing at
>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>> now think is my peak of 35 minutes because I was in the middle of
>>>>>>>> something for work.
>>>>>>>> 8:18 133 70 minutes
>>>>>>>> After this didn't test again till 11:08, four hours after the food,
>>>>>>>> which was 104.
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>>>>>>>> So while 137 is under the magic 140, it's still 33 points up from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> pre-breakfast value, and was probably not even the peak, although
>>>>>>>> considering that the next 25 minutes resulted in a reduction of
>>>>>>>> only 4
>>>>>>>> points, maybe the peak wasn't much higher than the 137.
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>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
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>>>>>>> My only thought is that cheese and a green pepper should not spike
>>>>>>> you like that. My suggestion is that you may need professional
>>>>>>> intervention.
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>>>>>> I don't think the food spiked me, I think the dawn phenomenon just
>>>>>> keeps going up.
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>>>>> Then try 1/2 slice of rye bread or equivalent carbs in rye crackers
>>>>> plus the fat/protein and see what happens.
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>>>> Just want to be sure I understand what you're suggesting, add
>>>> approximately 10 g grain-based carbs to the green veggie & cheese?
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>>> Yep. Although 1/2 a slice of the rye breads I get would be about 7-8 gr
>>> net carb. So that would be about 10gr including the pepper.

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>> I had the pepper at 5 (7 minus 2), I have some rye matzo here which has
>> 22 (24 -2) for a whole one, I was thinking a half, but since it looks
>> like you're suggesting to try for around 10 total, maybe I should try a
>> quarter.

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> Sounds reasonable. You will either go much higher with the matzo or stay
> around the same pre meal bg. If you stay the same then you probably
> weren't turning off DP with the previous meals.


OK, thanks very much! I'll report back.