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Old 05-09-2010, 10:16 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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Default Ellen's breakfast vis--vis morning readings



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On 9/3/2010 4:39 PM, Ellen K. wrote:

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:25:42 -0700, "Ellen K."
wrote:

It needs CARBS to turn it off in the morning?

Yes, the mechanism is to turn off the release of glucose from
the
liver, by having just the right amount of carbs coming in from
the
digestion.


Today instead of my usual romaine lettuce, I tried a whole raw
green
pepper with my cheese, i.e. about 5 gm net carbs instead of 2.
Here are
my numbers:
5:58 98 This is shortly after getting up, and incidentally my
lowest FBG
so far.
6:33 104 Right before breakfast. Finished the food at 7:08.
7:53 137 45 minutes after finishing the food, missed testing at
what I
now think is my peak of 35 minutes because I was in the middle
of
something for work.
8:18 133 70 minutes
After this didn't test again till 11:08, four hours after the
food,
which was 104.

So while 137 is under the magic 140, it's still 33 points up
from the
pre-breakfast value, and was probably not even the peak,
although
considering that the next 25 minutes resulted in a reduction of
only 4
points, maybe the peak wasn't much higher than the 137.

Any thoughts?



My only thought is that cheese and a green pepper should not
spike you like that. My suggestion is that you may need
professional intervention.


I don't think the food spiked me, I think the dawn phenomenon just
keeps going up.

Then try 1/2 slice of rye bread or equivalent carbs in rye crackers
plus the fat/protein and see what happens.

Just want to be sure I understand what you're suggesting, add
approximately 10 g grain-based carbs to the green veggie & cheese?


Yep. Although 1/2 a slice of the rye breads I get would be about 7-8
gr net carb. So that would be about 10gr including the pepper.


I had the pepper at 5 (7 minus 2), I have some rye matzo here which
has 22 (24 -2) for a whole one, I was thinking a half, but since it
looks like you're suggesting to try for around 10 total, maybe I
should try a quarter.


Sounds reasonable. You will either go much higher with the matzo or stay
around the same pre meal bg. If you stay the same then you probably
weren't turning off DP with the previous meals.