On Dec 29, 3:56*pm, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Dec 29, 11:13 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> > wrote:
> >> Rupert wrote:
> >>> On Dec 29, 10:57 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Rupert wrote:
> >>>>> On Dec 29, 2:46 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Rupert wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Dec 27, 8:49 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ha wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> All "vegans" start by believing a logical fallacy:
> >>>>>>>>>> * * If I consume animal products, I cause animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>>>>>>> * * I don't consume any animal products;
> >>>>>>>>>> * * therefore, I don't cause any animals to suffer and die..
> >>>>>>>>> All vegans?
> >>>>>>>> Without exception. *They all start with that, and many - probably most -
> >>>>>>>> never move off it. *Look at the myriad "vegan" web sites that extol
> >>>>>>>> "veganism" as a means of living a "cruelty-free" or "death-free"
> >>>>>>>> lifestyle. *Those people, by necessary implication, believe in the
> >>>>>>>> logical fallacy.
> >>>>>>> It's probably fair to say that it is quite widespread
> >>>>>> Universal, at the outset. *Most never abandon it.
> >>>>> See the discussion in my other post.
> >>>> See my well established fact, above: *All "vegans" begin by believing in
> >>>> the logical fallacy, and most never abandon it.
> >>> No, "well established fact" is not the phrase you were looking for
> >> Indeed it is what I was looking for.
>
> > Well, that's a shame
>
> I don't think so.

Whatever process you use for belief-formation, you should work on
making it more truth-tracking.