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Default "veganism" isn't what it purports to be

Rupert wrote:
> On Dec 29, 10:57 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> wrote:
>> Rupert wrote:
>>> On Dec 29, 2:46 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Rupert wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 27, 8:49 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ha wrote:
>>>>>>> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
>>>>>>>> All "vegans" start by believing a logical fallacy:
>>>>>>>> If I consume animal products, I cause animals to suffer and die.
>>>>>>>> I don't consume any animal products;
>>>>>>>> therefore, I don't cause any animals to suffer and die.
>>>>>>> All vegans?
>>>>>> Without exception. They all start with that, and many - probably most -
>>>>>> never move off it. Look at the myriad "vegan" web sites that extol
>>>>>> "veganism" as a means of living a "cruelty-free" or "death-free"
>>>>>> lifestyle. Those people, by necessary implication, believe in the
>>>>>> logical fallacy.
>>>>> It's probably fair to say that it is quite widespread
>>>> Universal, at the outset. Most never abandon it.
>>> See the discussion in my other post.

>> See my well established fact, above: All "vegans" begin by believing in
>> the logical fallacy, and most never abandon it.

>
> No, "well established fact" is not the phrase you were looking for


Indeed it is what I was looking for.