On Dec 29, 10:57*am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Dec 29, 2:46 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> > wrote:
> >> Rupert wrote:
> >>> On Dec 27, 8:49 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Ha wrote:
> >>>>> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
> >>>>>> All "vegans" start by believing a logical fallacy:
> >>>>>> * * If I consume animal products, I cause animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>>> * * I don't consume any animal products;
> >>>>>> * * therefore, I don't cause any animals to suffer and die.
> >>>>> All vegans?
> >>>> Without exception. *They all start with that, and many - probably most -
> >>>> never move off it. *Look at the myriad "vegan" web sites that extol
> >>>> "veganism" as a means of living a "cruelty-free" or "death-free"
> >>>> lifestyle. *Those people, by necessary implication, believe in the
> >>>> logical fallacy.
> >>> It's probably fair to say that it is quite widespread
> >> Universal, at the outset. *Most never abandon it.
>
> > See the discussion in my other post.
>
> See my well established fact, above: *All "vegans" begin by believing in
> the logical fallacy, and most never abandon it.- Hide quoted text -
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No, "well established fact" is not the phrase you were looking for,
you mean "something you made up when obviously you have no particular
evidence for it".