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Default "veganism" isn't what it purports to be

Rupert wrote:
> On Dec 29, 2:45 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
> wrote:
>> Rupert wrote:
>>> On Dec 27, 8:57 am, ex-PFC Wintergreen >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Dutch wrote:
>>>>> "Ha" > wrote
>>>>>> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
>>>>>>> All "vegans" start by believing a logical fallacy:
>>>>>>> If I consume animal products, I cause animals to suffer and die.
>>>>>>> I don't consume any animal products;
>>>>>>> therefore, I don't cause any animals to suffer and die.
>>>>>> All vegans?
>>>>>> rather a sweeping statement!
>>>>> You can replace "All vegans" with "Vegans" (in general) and not lose the
>>>>> validity of the message.
>>>>> Are you implicitly agreeing with the message but claiming to be an
>>>>> exception?
>>>> I don't have any problem making the assertion "all vegans". They do
>>>> *all* begin by believing that being "vegan" equates to living a
>>>> "cruelty-free" or "death-free" lifestyle.- Hide quoted text -
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>>> False. I have never believed that.

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> Well, whatever the truth of the matter is, I would certainly know.


We both know you began by believing in the fallacy.