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Default "Uhhh.... the best auto industry in the world." --Barak Obama, 4/30/2009


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>>>> "Uhhh.... the best auto industry in the world." --Barak Obama,
>>>> 4/30/2009
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>>>> Since when???
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>>> Not since some forty years ago. Prior to 1965 one could buy a new
>>> American made auto and expect it to last ten, fifteen, twenty, even
>>> twenty five years. Now one rarely sees an American auto on the road
>>> that's more than five years old, they're built with the same obsolesence
>>> as incandescent light bulbs, they're throw aways. An American auto used
>>> to be considered an investment... and in fact one could write off the
>>> interest on an auto loan same as a mortgage... which of course would be
>>> one way to help save the US auto industry, bring back the interest
>>> deduction on auto loans for new US autos only. However lot more needs
>>> doing, US industry is certain to collapse within the next few years
>>> unless a huge push is brought to bear for vocational training... the US
>>> has a tremendous shortage of skilled machinists and tool makers, most
>>> tooling and precision parts are imported, have been for a long time. An
>>> economy can't exist with everyone driving a cubicle.
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>> Many cars have parts made in other countries. Chrysler have their motors
>> made by Mitsubishi or in Canada.
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> That's exactly what I said. The US auto worker is not skilled labor,
> assembly line production is not skilled... any monkey can be trained to
> put the round peg in the round hole and the square peg in the square hole.
> American manufacturing companies want to pay skilled workers at the
> unskilled labor rate so it's no wonder there are no young folks who want
> to serve a machinist/toolmaker apprenticeship, and in fact American
> industry doesn't sponsor skilled apprenticeship programs, they never
> have... the only way to learn is by knocking around from one small jobbing
> shop to another, taking abuse for little pay. The US government has never
> sponsored vocational training programs either. In Germany, Japan, and
> many other industrialied countries a toolmaker is worth more than a
> medical doctor.
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Sorry. Came into the thread late.