On Jan 16, 1:17�pm, Lawrence Leichtman > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> �"Bill S." > wrote:
>
> > On Jan 15, 1:21�pm, Lawrence Leichtman > wrote:
>
> > > My feeling is that Pape Clement is overpriced and has been for some
> > > time. I had the 1976, 1978, 1982 and was not impressed so I didn't buy
> > > any more of it.-
>
> > Those vintages weren't any good for Pape Clement. In fact they were
> > unremitting crap.
>
> > �They only really revived in the mid to late 1980s.
>
> Which is why I never bought anymore. Hard to buy a wine that had such
> bad memories.

The 76 and 78 PC have more VA than a Musar. The '82 is a bit better,
but still quite an underachiever for the vintage.
However, I've loved 'the '61 and the '64. And like the '86, '90, '96 a
lot .