"Wilson Woods" > wrote in message
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> the semi-literate JethroUK© scrawled:
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> > "Wilson Woods" > wrote in message
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> >
> >>the semi-literate JethroUK© scrawled:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Wilson Woods" > wrote in message
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>the semi-literate JethroUK© scrawled:
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>>>No, DUMMY. The question is, for whom or what is it
> >>>>>>better for an animal to come into existence? Can't you
> >>>>>>read?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The answer CANNOT be for the animal itself. In order
> >>>>>>for something to be "better" for some entity, the
> >>>>>>entity must ALREADY exist. "Coming into existence",
> >>>>>>THEREFORE, cannot be "better" for an animal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>yes it can!
> >>>>
> >>>>No, it can't! I've just explained why it can't be!
> >>>>You don't get it!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>- 'better' is a relative term - thus only needs a perspective -
> >>>>
> >>>>>from the point of view of the [live] animal itsself (it's
perspective) -
> >>>>>it is better to be alive than not
> >>>>
> >>>>No. That's impossible. You cannot compare existence
> >>>>to non-existence:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>yes you can, but only if you exist - the existance define the
perspective -
> >>>if you can consider yourself better off dead than alive - you can
equally
> >>>consider yourself better off alive than dead
> >>
> >>No. That's the whole issue. When you exist, you can
> >>think that your existence is so awful, you don't want
> >>to continue it. You won't *really* be "better off"
> >>dead than alive, because you won't BE.
> >>
> >
> >
> > whilst alive, you can consider 'not being' (alive) & hence make the
relative
> > judgment - if your life is a living hell, you can (will full
perspective)
> > consider not doing it
>
> That's nice, semi-literate scrawler. It doesn't change
> the FACT that prior to existing, one has no well-being
> or welfare to improve, and thus coming into existence
> CANNOT be "better" than never coming into existence. QED.
>

errrrrm i know - but once existing, you can consider not existing