On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:27:04 GMT, Jonathan Ball > wrote:

>ipse dixit wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 11:29:06 -0700, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>>"ipse dixit" > wrote
>>>>On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:50:50 -0700, "Dutch" > wrote:
[..]
>>>>>It means something quite different than "Derek Nash was
>>>>>being cruel when he broke the broom over his dog's back."
>>>>
>>>>Have you any evidence to support that claim?
>>>
>>>Are you denying it?
>>
>> Yes, I am. Your source for that information admitted
>> that they had in fact lied about me and my family;
>>
>> From: Allison McDowall
>> To: **********************
>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:42 AM
>> Subject: Family man - Derek?
>>
>> "I can lie about your family if i want
>
>WRONG. That is NOT an admission of having lied about
>you and your family, cocksucker. It is a statement
>that she CAN do it.

She openly stated here on Usenet that she lied about me
and my family;

[start me]
> In ths email you sent my sister, (below) it's plain that you and
> David have lied about me, and that even his own mother, my
> mother too, can't bear to even speak to him over the phone
> because of it. Now, how many mothers would do a thing like
> that without a damn good reason?
[Allison McDowell using the nym "Belinda Laden"]
Oh yes that old one.. well your sister did hate you at that time
for trying to rail-road her into coming on google.
[end] http://tinyurl.com/3xoa8

So much for your sources of information, Jon, especially
since I've repeatedly shown they have lied. heh heh heh

>She did not lie about you breaking the broom over your
>dog's back. You did it.

She lied, and admitted she lied. Even my own sister
was about to come here and sort her out for it.

[Allison McDowell using the nym "Belinda Laden"]
> At least I'm not a NASH though. hahahhahahaha
>
I can understand David wanting to distance himself from me,
seeing as I've played such a large part in helping his ex girlfriend
keep him away from his kids all this time, but changing his
surname from Nash to Morrison only shows he's been rail-roaded
out of the family, that's all, and no wonder considering all the things
he's done and admitted to here.

In ths email you sent my sister, (below) it's plain that you and
David have lied about me, and that even his own mother, my
mother too, can't bear to even speak to him over the phone
because of it. Now, how many mothers would do a thing like
that without a damn good reason?

From: Allison McDowall
To: **********************
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: Family man - Derek?

"I can lie about your family if i want, especially after the way you
have behaved towards David even his own mother put the phone
down on him without saying what she was upset about and now
Dave will probably never talk to her again. If she is upset with
him about the news group then that's her problem because Dave
has had nothing to so with that stupid ng for months now."
[end]

Why would David's own sister, my sister too, forward me all
the emails you both sent her if it weren't for the fact that you
lied about me and that she thought I might want some proof?
In these emails my sister sent you;

From: *my sister*
Reply-To: **********************
To: "Belinda Laden"
Subject: Family man - Derek?
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:16:24 +0100

Alison dear, if you ever tell lies about my mother and myself
again.. there will be trouble......i really do not want to get
involved, but you are forcing my arm.
[end]

From: *my sister*
To: Allison McDowall
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:16 AM
Subject: Family man - Derek?

I kept well out of it until u mentioned me and my mother..
You have instigated moves against me and mine.. You are
not family Alison.. I will bring you down. Want to take
me on too??
[end]

From :*my sister*
To: Allison McDowall
Sent: Date :Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:21:05 +0100

no need for you to get soooooo upset and excited Alison, its
really not good for you my dear ))))

You will be so pleased to know its all sorted this end.. and
it wasn't that hard to come clean now was it sweetheart???.....
although maybe next time you might try a little harder to own
up a little sooner????

Now that we know that it was YOU who was the instigator,
the liar, the Shafter MY mother is more than happy ......and
that my dear is all I care about..

Im not sure quite how you are going to achieve leaving the
family when you never belonged in the first place, but like all
the other lies you connived and concocted .. Im sure you will
find a way
[end]

it looked likely she was about to come here and put you
both straight herself, but she agreed with me that it would
only result in a slanging match, and took my advice not to.

btw, why is it that David leaves all the ranting to you? Hasn't
he the guts or know-how to take me on and address the lies
he's told? Can't he cope against me?
[end] http://tinyurl.com/2qpss

Nice try, Jon, but I have evidence that your sources
have lied about me and my family, so you lose, and
your credibility suffers every time you repeat their
lies because I've shown you all this before. You
have zero credibility and ability.